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mach5nchimchim 01-22-2020 01:12 PM


Originally Posted by franklin_m (Post 12578029)
Because ... wait for it ... wait for it ... I'm not paid to advocate. But if it makes you feel better to continue to beat that drum, go right ahead.

This guy thinks he's a Navy JAG when it comes to FAA vs AMA/EAA stuff.

franklin_m 01-22-2020 01:17 PM


Originally Posted by mach5nchimchim (Post 12578139)
This guy thinks he's a Navy JAG when it comes to FAA vs AMA/EAA stuff.

Well, given that I helped open the first new military training airspace in the US in the last 20 years, including working with FAA offices in SF and LA, airline groups, and AOPA among others, I'd say I have some experience working these types of policy issues.

speedracerntrixie 01-23-2020 04:48 PM


Originally Posted by franklin_m (Post 12578140)
Well, given that I helped open the first new military training airspace in the US in the last 20 years, including working with FAA offices in SF and LA, airline groups, and AOPA among others, I'd say I have some experience working these types of policy issues.


Have you not heard? Experience in these forums means nothing.

mach5nchimchim 01-24-2020 10:41 AM

I like the EAA advocating for traditional model rc flying. So everyone is pretty much in agreement that UAS should alway yield and give the right away to a full scale, even if the full scale drops below 600, 500, 400 etc and invades our airspace, So how is a goggle wearer using pov with no spotter ever going to know to try and avoid right a stray full size unless the plane is in his field of vision for his POV goggles; they won't be able to take emergency avoidance action since they are fully submersed in their goggles for their flight.

astrohog 01-24-2020 11:44 AM


Originally Posted by mach5nchimchim (Post 12578651)
I like the EAA advocating for traditional model rc flying. So everyone is pretty much in agreement that UAS should alway yield and give the right away to a full scale, even if the full scale drops below 600, 500, 400 etc and invades our airspace, So how is a goggle wearer using pov with no spotter ever going to know to try and avoid right a stray full size unless the plane is in his field of vision for his POV goggles; they won't be able to take emergency avoidance action since they are fully submersed in their goggles for their flight.

FPV is not considered “traditional”

BarracudaHockey 01-24-2020 11:53 AM

FPV with a spotter, within LOS of the operator or spotter I have no issue with, to me thats the same as any other form of the hobby. Multi-GP is an example. They fly well below the tree line.

astrohog 01-24-2020 12:05 PM


Originally Posted by BarracudaHockey (Post 12578672)
FPV with a spotter, within LOS of the operator or spotter I have no issue with, to me thats the same as any other form of the hobby. Multi-GP is an example. They fly well below the tree line.

I agree with this. Common sense, really. At the end of the day, what the FAA is trying to do is keep manned aircraft safe. FPV racing is not a threat to manned aircraft.

Astro

mach5nchimchim 01-24-2020 12:08 PM


Originally Posted by astrohog (Post 12578668)
FPV is not considered “traditional”

i know, im anti goggles...

mach5nchimchim 01-24-2020 12:10 PM


Originally Posted by BarracudaHockey (Post 12578672)
FPV with a spotter, within LOS of the operator or spotter I have no issue with, to me thats the same as any other form of the hobby. Multi-GP is an example. They fly well below the tree line.

yes, that's ok, but fpv with no spotter; that's trouble, you have no vision except the goggles field of vision.

I have no issues with those structured indoor fpv races, i've watch a few races on tv and they are pretty neat.

astrohog 01-24-2020 12:15 PM


Originally Posted by mach5nchimchim (Post 12578680)
I have no issues with those structured indoor fpv races, i've watch a few races on tv and they are pretty neat.

Well that’s good, because they certainly pose no threat.....

Astro

BarracudaHockey 01-24-2020 02:00 PM

Thats why I stressed the use of a LOS spotter.

I have a bunch of flight hours from my military time and a fair bit of time flying civilian planes and I don't want to be hit by someone that can't see behind or beside them,

But in the big scheme of things from a risk management perspective, I worry a lot more about birds then drones when flying low altitude.

Hydro Junkie 01-26-2020 10:10 PM


Originally Posted by BarracudaHockey (Post 12578709)
Thats why I stressed the use of a LOS spotter.

I have a bunch of flight hours from my military time and a fair bit of time flying civilian planes and I don't want to be hit by someone that can't see behind or beside them,

But in the big scheme of things from a risk management perspective, I worry a lot more about birds then drones when flying low altitude.

As you should. The big difference is birds don't know any better, people flying drones should but probably don't care


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