The EAA Get's It, why not the AMA?
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The EAA Get's It, why not the AMA?
I just read this article over at the EAA website;
https://eaa.org/eaa/news-and-publica...kwd0FxUzIwSSJ9
This article sums up in a couple of very well-written paragraphs, exactly what the AMA SHOULD have been saying for YEARS!
I just joined based on that article alone! $30.00 and you get the print AND digital magazine! Now that is what I call value! Funny how people whine and moan about AMA dues increases and, based on one article posted on their website, I know literally DOZENS of people that joined IMMEDIATELY! I think that is more people than actually voted in the last AMA election! LOL
Why doesn't the AMA get it?
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Astro
https://eaa.org/eaa/news-and-publica...kwd0FxUzIwSSJ9
This article sums up in a couple of very well-written paragraphs, exactly what the AMA SHOULD have been saying for YEARS!
I just joined based on that article alone! $30.00 and you get the print AND digital magazine! Now that is what I call value! Funny how people whine and moan about AMA dues increases and, based on one article posted on their website, I know literally DOZENS of people that joined IMMEDIATELY! I think that is more people than actually voted in the last AMA election! LOL
Why doesn't the AMA get it?
Regards,
Astro
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I agree, a well written article. I do have to admit that I find myself relying more on other organizations to bring some common sense to the FAA. However I find it funny that over a year ago I had mentioned the negative impact on full scale aviation industry all this would have and of course got the usual sarcastic response from the Commander.
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I agree, a well written article. I do have to admit that I find myself relying more on other organizations to bring some common sense to the FAA. However I find it funny that over a year ago I had mentioned the negative impact on full scale aviation industry all this would have and of course got the usual sarcastic response from the Commander.
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It appears the EAA is concerned about saving traditional RC model airplane flying , VS the AMA being more concerned with forcing anyone holding an RC transmitter to have to be an AMA member .
One is about protecting traditional RC model aviation from being swept up in the drone mess , and one is about protecting itself .
I just pray the FAA figures out what the different organization's REAL motives are , and acts accordingly ....
One is about protecting traditional RC model aviation from being swept up in the drone mess , and one is about protecting itself .
I just pray the FAA figures out what the different organization's REAL motives are , and acts accordingly ....
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"EAA believes that anyone operating under the guidelines of a community-based organization should be able to establish a FRIA, such as individuals in rural areas who wish to fly from their own property."
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- Request the FAA to expand the application period, to give time for more CBOs to form.
- Request the FAA to extend eligibility to other organizations (such as STEM schools) and individuals with suitable properties.
- Request the FAA to remove the unnecessarily harsh and burdensome language that states that FRIAs terminated at the request of a CBO can never be reactivated. Sometimes clubs lose fields for no fault of their own. That doesn't preclude someone else from using the same site in future if circumstances change.
- Request the FAA to accept FRIAs as a permanent part of the airspace system. UAS being safely operated within the confines of a FRIA are not being operated elsewhere, where they might conflict with other unmanned traffic. Keeping FRIAs open for as long as possible benefits both recreational UAS users and the FAA.
- Request the FAA to expand the application period, to give time for more CBOs to form.
- Request the FAA to extend eligibility to other organizations (such as STEM schools) and individuals with suitable properties.
- Request the FAA to remove the unnecessarily harsh and burdensome language that states that FRIAs terminated at the request of a CBO can never be reactivated. Sometimes clubs lose fields for no fault of their own. That doesn't preclude someone else from using the same site in future if circumstances change.
- Request the FAA to accept FRIAs as a permanent part of the airspace system. UAS being safely operated within the confines of a FRIA are not being operated elsewhere, where they might conflict with other unmanned traffic. Keeping FRIAs open for as long as possible benefits both recreational UAS users and the FAA.
See , not everyone out here is out to be contrary , you say something I agree with I'll agree with you , Franklin says something I agree with I'll agree with him .......
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I'm all for getting people involved in the hobby as well as preserving the way that I enjoy the hobby. Having non CBO members able to enjoy a FRIA site may very well be a good way to increase participation. However it brings up some obstacles that must be overcome. The first one is the insurance aspect. Not only for the individual but for the site as well. Any solutions to that?
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It appears the EAA is concerned about saving traditional RC model airplane flying , VS the AMA being more concerned with forcing anyone holding an RC transmitter to have to be an AMA member .
One is about protecting traditional RC model aviation from being swept up in the drone mess , and one is about protecting itself .
I just pray the FAA figures out what the different organization's REAL motives are , and acts accordingly ....
One is about protecting traditional RC model aviation from being swept up in the drone mess , and one is about protecting itself .
I just pray the FAA figures out what the different organization's REAL motives are , and acts accordingly ....
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Astro , I gotta say , it truly saddens me that I believe what I'm seeing is that the AMA is willing to gamble the hobby's future against it's own . That's my take , that the AMA sees itself as doomed unless it can get mandatory membership for all who fly RC by whatever means it takes . First get it so only CBO /FRIA flyers can fly , and then strangle any upstart CBOs in the cradle ALA the sport flyer's association , bingo ! instant monopoly on all hobby RC flying . I have been AMA for many years and this is the first time I can say I completely disapprove of what I see the AMA doing , I had kinda figured I was gonna age out of the hobby rather than seeing the hobby regulated out from under us under the AMA's watch ....
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I'm not so sure that AMA doesn't get the difference. It's my understanding that the FAA a few months ago proposed to the AMA that altitude limits could be set at 700' or 1,200' and that was rejected by the AMA due to soaring, IMAC and Pattern requiring higher altitudes. To me it appears that AMA is still trying to advocate for all forms of model aviation. Although it appears that the FAA called their bluff and that offer has been pulled off the table and replaced with the FRIA concept. I can't help but think if AMA had stuck with advocating for traditional aircraft that we may be better off now. I think they missed the bus thinking that the MR guys would be interested in a club atmosphere.
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I'm all for getting people involved in the hobby as well as preserving the way that I enjoy the hobby. Having non CBO members able to enjoy a FRIA site may very well be a good way to increase participation. However it brings up some obstacles that must be overcome. The first one is the insurance aspect. Not only for the individual but for the site as well. Any solutions to that?
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Nope , no way dude . I'll go only this far , you keep it civil and so will I , I believe you've been here before , you say you haven't , and so we'll have to agree to disagree and move on .
I will not edit that post because it's my belief , I stand by it , but am willing put that in the past and not mention it again unless you do .
I will not edit that post because it's my belief , I stand by it , but am willing put that in the past and not mention it again unless you do .
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So , getting back to Astro's topic question , I've stated why I believe the EAA's approach is closer to what I'd like to see VS the AMA's approach , but haven't yet seen your answer .
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Yours in Civility...
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Actually, when you look at the way the proposed FRIA laws are worded, it's very much a join a club and CBO or don't fly situation. When the FAA starts talking CBOs, the only one presently operating that can show up at meetings is the AMA. The others don't have the "clout" to really do anything. The EAA, on the other hand, does have the clout to effect change and is doing so using that clout. Being someone in the aviation industry, I put a lot more faith in what the EAA is doing than what the AMA "claims" to be doing
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Actually, when you look at the way the proposed FRIA laws are worded, it's very much a join a club and CBO or don't fly situation. When the FAA starts talking CBOs, the only one presently operating that can show up at meetings is the AMA. The others don't have the "clout" to really do anything. The EAA, on the other hand, does have the clout to effect change and is doing so using that clout. Being someone in the aviation industry, I put a lot more faith in what the EAA is doing than what the AMA "claims" to be doing
Well shoot, gonna have to make note of this one too as I think the FAA is more opt to listen to the EAA and any other full scale organization as well.
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Astro