This is Crap!!
 

Man I am steaming right now.

Ok here is the deal.
I run a simple link site clubfield.com
All it is, is a site with pictures of flying field sites and a link to the club that runs the field.
Nothing more, very simple.

Well tonight, the webmaster or whoever he is, sends me a letter saying that my link from their site is being removed because of:
"adware”, pop-ups, and browser spoofing / hijacking"

Someone please show me where any of this is happening???
The only thing that pops up is the clubs website when their link is clicked to give a fresh browser.

Anyway, not only does this idiot write this and accuse me falsly, he then proceeds to copy the email to a ton of AMA officials.

I am seriously considering contacting my attorney to start a lible case against him.

I wrote back to him and all that he CC'd demanding proof of these alligations.
Of course no response by him.
I'm not going to lay down on this, I'm fuming and I'm going after someone for sure.

RE: This is Crap!! (Mercer County Radio Control Society)
 

well I sent everything to my attorney.

there is nothing worse than being accused and slandered with allegations that are not true.

Maybe if he had not went on to say in the letter that he is telling everyone that will listen about me I would not be taking it this far. But he did.

RE: This is Crap!! (Mercer County Radio Control Society)
 

Ronnie,
Sorry to hear that has happened to you. Make sure you do a dump of the headers and sources and provide your legal guy that also because it contains stuff he will need.

RE: This is Crap!! (Mercer County Radio Control Society)
 

also,
have a 3rd party go to yer site and click around and insure that something hasn't been added without yer knowlege.

you would not be the first to have this happen.

RE: This is Crap!! (Mercer County Radio Control Society)
 

thanks, will do

RE: This is Crap!! (Mercer County Radio Control Society)
 

I'm a little confused here. How can someone else add or take away from a website you run? Also, why would the the AMA care about your website? Do you know for a fact that the guy sent the e-mails or did he just say he sent them? He may just be jerking your chain.

RE: This is Crap!! (Mercer County Radio Control Society)
 

no he actually did.
They were in the CC list.

I think that pisses me off more than anything else.

RE: This is Crap!! (Mercer County Radio Control Society)
 

If you added a link to his site then he has a right to take it down. Your site is advertising other clubs by virtue of your list. Although I would consider it a good thing I can see why someone else won't.

Always get permission before adding a link to another site.

RE: This is Crap!! (Mercer County Radio Control Society)
 

I think you should consider youself lucky that he didn't call Commisioner Gordon to have Batman get on it!

Really dude, a lawyer? Are you insane? It's an e-mail from some old fart with nothing better to do and it won't effect you at all. I really hope "your lawyer" is your brother in law because if your paying someone to look into this you need a check-up from the neck-up, if you get my drift.

RE: This is Crap!! (Mercer County Radio Control Society)
 

Shok

Just a FYI If I was you I wouldnt be airing out the dirty rags till after the fact this could come and bite you where the sun dont shine [X(]

RE: This is Crap!! (Mercer County Radio Control Society)
 

I think you guys are missing the point.

I dont give a crap if he takes the link down at all.

But if I were to accuse you guys of some type of criminal behavior, then CC it to a bunch of people, wouldnt you be the slightest bit upset?

RE: This is Crap!! (Mercer County Radio Control Society)
 

nothing will bite me anywhere. It's a simple link list is all.
I made this site on the side because I love this hobby and I like to see other people fields.

Maybe if it was a Russian porn site then you might expect adware and hijacking.

But it's not, and to make claims without backing it up it just pure and simple jackassery.

RE: This is Crap!! (Mercer County Radio Control Society)
 

BB You nailed IT LOL:D

RE: This is Crap!! (Mercer County Radio Control Society)
 

Being in business for myself for the last 8 years has shown that having a lawyer on retainer for anything I need has been a good idea.

RE: This is Crap!! (Mercer County Radio Control Society)
 

I use to belong to this club when I lived in NJ and I do not think that we have all the story here. I know the guy who run's the website and I do not think he would have done anything with out a good reason.

You also need to be careful about what you are saying here. They sent you an email saying they where taking your link down so you come here an blast him?

I'm not going to take sides, but as with a lot of stuff on the internet there are two sides and I don't see MCRCS coming here and blasting you about "pop ups" and the like.

Spend your money on a Lawyer, but based upon the info you've presented here I don't see that they have done anything wrong. You are going to have a hard time proving that they did not have a problem that they beleived or preceived to be from you site. If that is the case then they are well with in there right to state what the rightfully believe is true.

Slander and Libel require that what the said or did, they did so with full knowledge that it is false and with intent to harm you personnally or you business. I don't see that.

Also, have emailed MCRCS and asked a representive to respond.

RE: This is Crap!! (Mercer County Radio Control Society)
 

Apparently some of you have serious reading disabilities.

He did much more than take down a link....and I could care less about that!

RE: This is Crap!! (Mercer County Radio Control Society)
 

here is just a small section of his email

and please try to remember he copied this off to people at the AMA for christ sakes.

“adware”, pop-ups, and browser spoofing / hijacking. This will be reported to the national organizations and anyone else that will listen."

RE: This is Crap!! (Mercer County Radio Control Society)
 

Don't you think that he should be upset that you chose to complain about him on a public forum? IMO you are in the wrong, not him!

RE: This is Crap!! (Mercer County Radio Control Society)
 

hmmm he decided to take it public first with cc'd emails

if he is upset by this, then he shouldn't have done it

I guess if you mess with the bull, sometimes you get the horns.

RE: This is Crap!! (Mercer County Radio Control Society)
 

You yourself said you link came up on another window. Some would call that a pop up.

Why are you telling us? You should be talking to the webmaster!

RE: This is Crap!! (Mercer County Radio Control Society)
 

The only bull I see so far I printed in this thread. Let's give MCRCS a chance to respond. Until then I have my hip waders on as I can see the BS level rising already.

By the way how does a limited distibution of an e-mail make this public? Your the one who has aired this out in public.

RE: This is Crap!! (Mercer County Radio Control Society)
 

haha ok I see how some of you guys would not mind this happening to you.

I do.

If you were in my situation you should do the same. Reputation is everything and if you dont fight for it then you are spineless

RE: This is Crap!! (Mercer County Radio Control Society)
 

I only see you ruining your reputation by continuing this rant. Your not helping your cause or your website here. Until you posted this most people didn't know and didn't care about it. But now?

Most of the people on this site will never have anything to do with MCRCS, and most of those that have or will I know will find the this club to be full of very good people with one of, if not the best, RC flying facilities in NJ. On the other hand club leaders who visit RCU who may have been debating linking to your site might chose not to because of what they see you doing here.

RE: This is Crap!!
 

I like how you think your the voice of most people.

Im only replying to your comments.

I don't care if people link or not, thats not the issue.

I did nothing wrong. Just being accused wrongly.

How would you like it if I made up some allegations about you and distributed it to AMA officials, would you lay down and take it?

RE: This is Crap!!
 

NO, but I wouldn't air out my laundry on this site. You have the list of people they contacted in the e-mail they sent. Hit "Reply to all" and defend your postition to them via the e-mail.

No need to bring it here. Use back channels to get this resolved and if you still think it requires a lawyer then go for it. But regardless of your reasons for posting this here, IMHO it makes you look bad, not right and not wrong, just in a bad light. And your little banner on your web-site in replacement of their link:eek:

[link]http://www.clubfield.com/nj/hightstown.htm[/link]

RE: This is Crap!!
 

ok fine

I dont want to argue

MODS please delete this thread

RE: This is Crap!! (Mercer County Radio Control Society)
 

Well this has done wonders for your reputation hasn't it?

RE: This is Crap!!
 

According to you? I'm not worried.

RE: This is Crap!!
 

Why have you come on here to be pissed? Go somewhere else with your problem, somewhere it might have reason. It doesn't belong here. Your complaint is about your website and a club you have made a link to. What does this have to do with the AMA?

RE: This is Crap!!
 

Because they sent off the email to the AMA officials.

RE: This is Crap!! (Mercer County Radio Control Society)
 

I don't think "adware”, pop-ups, and browser spoofing / hijacking" are criminal (yet). In fact, I doubt many of the AMA folks that got the email would even know what the technical/ethical issues are. Personally, I would have simply responded to the email with a polite, "You must be mistaken" message, but your approach is valid as well. The sooner we get lawyers up to speed on Internet ethics and law, the better.

RE: This is Crap!!
 

Well, as far as I know, the AMA doesn't have a police force. What is the AMA going to do, tell you that you're no longer a member? Fella, this is petty crap! Forget about it!

RE: This is Crap!!
 

yeah it really sucks that with a click of a button a person can be wrongly accused of something, then without proof, distribute their dialogue to large groups of people.

Maybe I should not have posted this thread according to a few of you. I understand, I am just getting off my chest something that happened and thought some might be interested in what some people are doing.

Just remember, I never slandered anyone, I am just reporting what has happened here.

RE: This is Crap!!
 

I respect your opinion, but it's not petty to me.

RE: This is Crap!!
 

Shok

I think everyone on this board or that has replyed would agree with you that if someone did that to them they would be as pissed as you....... BUT the simple thing to have done is to reply all and defend your site and say that you were sorry for AMA getting mail that should have stayed between 2-4 ppl < due to club officers> and then do a good check of your site and see if the claims are real or if maybe the Webmaster of the other site had spyware etc on his comp and didnt know it.

When I said it would come and bite you, As you can see im right. Go ahead and fight full steam with your money pit.... err lawyer cause the only thing your going to win is a lawyer with a smile.

GL and feel free to tell us the out come when it happens :eek:

RE: This is Crap!! (Mercer County Radio Control Society)
 

The site has been scanned for any spyware by 6 people now.
There never has or will be anything like that going on.

The lawyer owes me work anyway and a simple C&D will suffice.
I want a retraction and apology sent to all the people he CC'd.

RE: This is Crap!!
 

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