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mongo 10-02-2008 11:18 PM

RE: Why I'm Supporting Mark Smith
 
mullet, an exceedingly stupid fish.

Stickbuilder 10-03-2008 03:54 AM

RE: Why I'm Supporting Mark Smith
 


ORIGINAL: Robotech


ORIGINAL: combatpigg

Mark Smith has definitely got the "mullet vote".
Bdaa, bdaa, that's all folks.

<Loony tunes theme song here>

Huh? The Mullet vote? What in the cat hair does that mean. Mullet the 80's hair style? Business in the front, party in the back. :)Hmmm. Never had one. Can I still vote for Mark Smith?

Guess Hoss has the flat-top vote sewed up? Now I did have one of those (10 yrs. old). Army brat you know. Little stick of butch wax to boot.

Hmmmm. Maybe you can't fit folks into little groups as much as you try. Old trick, same result.

Other than the perceived lack of interest in a pet peeve (OCD) concerning the free mag and the seemingly slow response to a request for figures not readily available to him, Mark has passed muster. The other candidate, not so much.

KE: Your ability to cast a ballot in no way affects your right to voice an opinion. Whether you are a $58 voting member or a $29 non-voting member, you have a right, a duty, to voice your opinion. Heck, even if someone is not even an AMA member they should have an interest in the election outcome as AMA issues are the issues of the modeling public in general. Gains or losses made by the success or failure of the AMA affect us all.

Rational thought and reason don't come with a membership card.

Robo, I think you have closed the loop with that last statement. Talk about living proof.:D:D:D

Bill, AMA 4720








Robotech 10-03-2008 01:09 PM

RE: Why I'm Supporting Mark Smith
 
<long sigh>

Stickbuilder 10-03-2008 01:58 PM

RE: Why I'm Supporting Mark Smith
 


ORIGINAL: Robotech

<long sigh>
I thought you'd appreciate that one. :D:D

Bill, AMA 4720

Kemosobie 10-03-2008 03:35 PM

RE: Why I'm Supporting Mark Smith
 
Mark Smith the next AMA EVP

Stickbuilder 10-03-2008 07:23 PM

RE: Why I'm Supporting Mark Smith
 


ORIGINAL: Kemosobie

Mark Smith the next AMA EVP
Wanna Bet?

Bill, AMA 4720

Kemosobie 10-03-2008 09:31 PM

RE: Why I'm Supporting Mark Smith
 
Stickbuilder glad to see you support Mark. You sure have posted in this thread enough.
Thank you for your support.



combatpigg 10-03-2008 11:09 PM

RE: Why I'm Supporting Mark Smith
 
"Why do you bring this man before me?"
"He is being charged with 91 counts of intellectual swarf and spam, your honor".

Stickbuilder 10-04-2008 12:53 AM

RE: Why I'm Supporting Mark Smith
 


ORIGINAL: Kemosobie

Stickbuilder glad to see you support Mark. You sure have posted in this thread enough.
Thank you for your support.



Yes, haven't I? About as much as Mitchell, and Robotech have posted in the Anti-Smith thread. What's your point? Why don't you start an Anti Stickbuilder thread, I'll come to visit it, and to whizz you off there too.

Bill, AMA 4720

Kemosobie 10-04-2008 08:03 AM

RE: Why I'm Supporting Mark Smith
 
Ahh, another supporter for Mark has posted

92

Stickbuilder 10-04-2008 03:18 PM

RE: Why I'm Supporting Mark Smith
 

ORIGINAL: Kemosobie

Ahh, another supporter for Mark has posted

92
Belligerant post removed. (and he really deserved it too)

Bill, AMA 4720

Robotech 10-04-2008 09:15 PM

RE: Why I'm Supporting Mark Smith
 


ORIGINAL: Stickbuilder

Belligerant post removed. (and he really deserved it too)

Bill, AMA 4720

I hate when that happens. :)

STLPilot 10-06-2008 12:47 PM

RE: Why I'm Supporting Mark Smith
 


ORIGINAL: Stickbuilder



ORIGINAL: Kemosobie

Mark Smith the next AMA EVP
Wanna Bet?

Bill, AMA 4720
If he won't I will ... any amount. Should be an easy win for you.

Of course we could also add that the loser never posts in this forum again. I'll be MORE than happy to make that bet.

Let's see that backbone now!

bdavison 10-06-2008 04:24 PM

RE: Why I'm Supporting Mark Smith
 
If you're not a member of the AMA, your opinion is worthless.
Its like the people that moan about the president, but never voted for one. PFFFT.




Kemosobie 10-06-2008 10:41 PM

RE: Why I'm Supporting Mark Smith
 
Post removed by Kemosobie

RCKen 10-06-2008 10:54 PM

RE: Why I'm Supporting Mark Smith
 
Ok, that's going far enough. RCU is NOT going to remove ANY members based on the outcome of the upcoming election. So this line of discussion can end right here, right now.

Ken

Stickbuilder 10-07-2008 02:57 PM

RE: Why I'm Supporting Mark Smith
 


ORIGINAL: bdavison

If you're not a member of the AMA, your opinion is worthless.
Its like the people that moan about the president, but never voted for one. PFFFT.




Bill,

I'll have to agree with you on that one.

Bill, AMA 4720

STLPilot 10-07-2008 03:53 PM

RE: Why I'm Supporting Mark Smith
 


ORIGINAL: bdavison

If you're not a member of the AMA, your opinion is worthless.
Its like the people that moan about the president, but never voted for one. PFFFT.

So I guess Muncie and all current AMA members should not be concerned with trying to get new blood into the org. Only how ironic is that they are making this claim in a public forum and not an official AMA forum. I would say that if you believe the AMA should not listen to public voices, those AMA members against listening to anyone besides themselves would be diligent in finding their own home to express their opinions instead of gloming onto a public forum.

Stickbuilder 10-07-2008 06:26 PM

RE: Why I'm Supporting Mark Smith
 


ORIGINAL: STLPilot



ORIGINAL: Stickbuilder



ORIGINAL: Kemosobie

Mark Smith the next AMA EVP
Wanna Bet?

Bill, AMA 4720
If he won't I will ... any amount. Should be an easy win for you.

Of course we could also add that the loser never posts in this forum again. I'll be MORE than happy to make that bet.

Let's see that backbone now!
Once again, you don't have anything to lose win, lose or draw. You won't even be voting.

Bill, AMA 4720

STLPilot 10-08-2008 05:16 AM

RE: Why I'm Supporting Mark Smith
 


ORIGINAL: Stickbuilder



ORIGINAL: STLPilot



ORIGINAL: Stickbuilder



ORIGINAL: Kemosobie

Mark Smith the next AMA EVP
Wanna Bet?

Bill, AMA 4720
If he won't I will ... any amount. Should be an easy win for you.

Of course we could also add that the loser never posts in this forum again. I'll be MORE than happy to make that bet.

Let's see that backbone now!
Once again, you don't have anything to lose win, lose or draw. You won't even be voting.

Bill, AMA 4720
But at least I'm confident that Mark Smith will win. Confident enough to bet you that I'll never post on this board again if he loses. How do you feel about your fish?

RCKen 10-08-2008 12:39 PM

RE: Why I'm Supporting Mark Smith
 
Ok, that's enough of that. If you are so intent on betting then I would suggest you go to Vegas and place a bet there. As for here in these forums, that's the last I want to hear of it. All it does is distract from the discussions at hand.

Thanks for your cooperation guys.

Ken

STLPilot 10-08-2008 12:54 PM

RE: Why I'm Supporting Mark Smith
 


ORIGINAL: RCKen

Ok, that's enough of that. If you are so intent on betting then I would suggest you go to Vegas and place a bet there. As for here in these forums, that's the last I want to hear of it. All it does is distract from the discussions at hand.

Thanks for your cooperation guys.

Ken
Come on Ken, I was only trying to make his wish come true, not take his money. But now I'll just agree with him instead, I don't think his fish will win either.

bdavison 10-09-2008 09:43 AM

RE: Why I'm Supporting Mark Smith
 
STL,
It has nothing to do with recruiting new members.
No organization allows non-members to vote, why should we listen to persons who have no vested interest in the organization. The US doesnt allow non-citizens to vote, Corporations dont allow their competitors into the boardrooms.

The simple fact is people who have never once got off their butts to support the organization should have ZERO say when it comes time for us to choose our leadership of OUR organization. Non-members dont have anything invested in the failure or successfulness of the AMA. Its easy to pick a side when you have nothing to lose.


STLPilot 10-09-2008 12:15 PM

RE: Why I'm Supporting Mark Smith
 

ORIGINAL: bdavison
STL,
It has nothing to do with recruiting new members.
Sure it does.


No organization allows non-members to vote, why should we listen to persons who have no vested interest in the organization.
True and there are plenty of organizations that don't allow their members to vote either, I belong to some of them.


The US doesnt allow non-citizens to vote, Corporations dont allow their competitors into the boardrooms.
True, but their voices are heard. Their rallies are listened too. If the gov't and the people didn't listen to illegal and legal immigrants, they wouldn't be here. They might not be able to vote, but their voice is loud and clear and people listen.


The simple fact is people who have never once got off their butts to support the organization should have ZERO say when it comes time for us to choose our leadership of OUR organization. Non-members dont have anything invested in the failure or successfulness of the AMA. Its easy to pick a side when you have nothing to lose.
If this was true the AMA would be mailing out policy voting mechanisms only to members, they don't, they use survey monkey and anyone can voice their opinion. Also if the AMA believed they should only listen to members, they wouldn't be in here constantly listening to what is said right here on this board and they frequent quite often. Whether they have "say" doesn't matter, because they are still heard and decuisions are made based on them. Case in fact ... the PPP, most AMA'ers that were asked their opinions were against the program, the numbers were posted publically. Problem is that "most AMA members" only makes up a small fraction of those that play with flying model toys and could eventually be members. You know and I know their voice is heard, why shouldn't it ... there is a reason they are not here and it's not a guess.


bdavison 10-09-2008 03:16 PM

RE: Why I'm Supporting Mark Smith
 

If the gov't and the people didn't listen to illegal and legal immigrants, they wouldn't be here. They might not be able to vote, but their voice is loud and clear and people listen.
Unfortunatly...and thats part of the reason we have those issues and many others but thats for another thread.


If this was true the AMA would be mailing out policy voting mechanisms only to members, they don't, they use survey monkey and anyone can voice their opinion. Also if the AMA believed they should only listen to members, they wouldn't be in here constantly listening to what is said right here on this board and they frequent quite often. Whether they have "say" doesn't matter, because they are still heard and decuisions are made based on them. Case in fact ... the PPP, most AMA'ers that were asked their opinions were against the program, the numbers were posted publically. Problem is that "most AMA members" only makes up a small fraction of those that play with flying model toys and could eventually be members. You know and I know their voice is heard, why shouldn't it ... there is a reason they are not here and it's not a guess.
Prime example of why non-ama members opinions dont matter. Mis-information gets tossed around by backseat drivers. The AMA elections ARE held by mail out voting methods, and only members get ballots. AMA policy is voted on by our elected officials, its called the executive council and not by some survey.

In all reality, non-ama folks spouting their opinions are like special interest groups lobbying for some pork bill. Their opinions are based on a "whats in it for me" aspect. They dont care about the AMA. All they want is a kickback. We have no obligation to listen to the opinions of people who have never supported us, and dont have our best interests at heart. Blathering on about what changes they want when they dont even have the guts to make an effort to change them other than spouting off at the mouth.

I stick with my original statement. WORTHLESS.
If you want to make changes, get up, sign up, pay your dues, and vote.....and dont expect sympathy if you dont.



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