Thunder Tiger Cessna 177 Cardinal????
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Thunder Tiger Cessna 177 Cardinal????
Has anyone built a Thunder Tiger cessna 177 cardinal? Wondering if you have to glue the fire wall in place or does it just snap into place? It fits pretty tight and the instructions don't say to glue or not to glue.
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GLUE IT !!! I also suggest that you score the firewall and the area that it attaches to, in fact any thing that gets glue on a plastic plane should be scored some or at least roughed up with sand paper.
You have a fine plane there and you should get a lot of fun out of it. I hope if you are new at this ( sounded like it ) you have someone experienced to help you along. This plane can be a trainer but not without some help in most cases.
What engine are you putting on it ?? ENJOY !!! RED
You have a fine plane there and you should get a lot of fun out of it. I hope if you are new at this ( sounded like it ) you have someone experienced to help you along. This plane can be a trainer but not without some help in most cases.
What engine are you putting on it ?? ENJOY !!! RED
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RE: Thunder Tiger Cessna 177 Cardinal????
Do you have any suggestions on how to make sure the fire wall is in exactly the right spot? I can push it in to place and the bottom has a little notch for where it goes but the top seems to have a liltle foward and backward movement as to where it should be.
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It should just press into place, test it a couple times then if it feels right glue it. Make sure to score it.
The 91 will pobably be tight but with a little patience it should fit. I had an OS 91 in mine .
On the floats, I found a weak spot in the mounts but it is an easy fix. The mount post in the floats can pull out if you aren't carefull when putting them togeather.
Before gluing the mount post into position : check that they fit ok then carefully open up a little extra room in the foam right under the plastic (top of the float ). Score the post real good then put a good amount of Epoxy in the hole and on the post and insert the post in place. You want the extra glue in the hole to sort of make a larger area for the post to pull against. I've seen them work fine stock but I've also seen the post pull out on a couple and it isn't really a nice sight. Don't ask how I know. lol
Follow the instructions and be sure and check out all the pictures,
a lot of folks miss things by not looking at the pictures real good.
You should Enjoy this plane as it's a lot of fun. By the way I used a 13 X 6 prop on my 91. It gave me more clearance between the floats ( and water ) and it sort of worked like a break when throttling back, made for some neat water landings.
ENJOY !!! RED
The 91 will pobably be tight but with a little patience it should fit. I had an OS 91 in mine .
On the floats, I found a weak spot in the mounts but it is an easy fix. The mount post in the floats can pull out if you aren't carefull when putting them togeather.
Before gluing the mount post into position : check that they fit ok then carefully open up a little extra room in the foam right under the plastic (top of the float ). Score the post real good then put a good amount of Epoxy in the hole and on the post and insert the post in place. You want the extra glue in the hole to sort of make a larger area for the post to pull against. I've seen them work fine stock but I've also seen the post pull out on a couple and it isn't really a nice sight. Don't ask how I know. lol
Follow the instructions and be sure and check out all the pictures,
a lot of folks miss things by not looking at the pictures real good.
You should Enjoy this plane as it's a lot of fun. By the way I used a 13 X 6 prop on my 91. It gave me more clearance between the floats ( and water ) and it sort of worked like a break when throttling back, made for some neat water landings.
ENJOY !!! RED
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RE: Thunder Tiger Cessna 177 Cardinal????
I've had two of them. Wheeled, not floats. OS 61FX made it very fast. It has a thin wing that doesn't like to turn slow, easy to stall. I used rudder on final to avoid tip stalls. Straight ahead stalls were gentle. It does not fly like a trainer.
Tips- the tiller arm on the nose gear is weak and will break. Reinforce it with epozy, cloth, metal, etc. The rudder horn indents will crack the rudder if the cables are too tight. Don't use the provided cables, get quality ones. The fuel tank can slide out of it's mount. Lots of ties. The mount needs a screw on each side, the glue joint at sidewall and mount is a weak spot. A separate steering servo works better, glue a cheap one on the fuse floor, since the tray will be full.
Tips- the tiller arm on the nose gear is weak and will break. Reinforce it with epozy, cloth, metal, etc. The rudder horn indents will crack the rudder if the cables are too tight. Don't use the provided cables, get quality ones. The fuel tank can slide out of it's mount. Lots of ties. The mount needs a screw on each side, the glue joint at sidewall and mount is a weak spot. A separate steering servo works better, glue a cheap one on the fuse floor, since the tray will be full.
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Sorry but in all the ones I've owned I never had all those problems. I'll go along with putting a screw into the mount through the fuse as a back up for a poor glue joint . Maybe you shouldn't be so hard on your equipment. By the way I have owned at least 2 of everyone of the ARC/ Modelfly planes and still have 3 after about 10 years. ENJOY !!! RED
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Fantastic plane.
Bought one before Thunder tiger took over the rights of them.
Old video of mine with a 2 stroke Magnum 65GP non ball bearing air bleed carb.
These are of my first flights, and I landed it way too fast back then, but it took the abuse just fine
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqVchML2cKs[/youtube]
Bought one before Thunder tiger took over the rights of them.
Old video of mine with a 2 stroke Magnum 65GP non ball bearing air bleed carb.
These are of my first flights, and I landed it way too fast back then, but it took the abuse just fine
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqVchML2cKs[/youtube]
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I hope the model doesn't have the elevator related problem that the full size one had. Seems that a full stall landing in the original version might cause the elevator to be "blanked" by the wing.
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I just got the Cessna Cardanal and have an issue with the nose steering.How did you get more throw?? Works good to the right and little to the left.. Any help would be great... Thanks...
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You shouldn't need MORE throw . If your servo is "centered" before you attach to the stearing arm , you should have plenty of turning radius , it doesn't take much . Most people try to get to much throw and then have a hard time with ground control. If you still THINK you need more ~~ try using a different hole on the servo arm
I hope you payed close attention to the other comments . ENJOY !!! RED
I hope you payed close attention to the other comments . ENJOY !!! RED
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Thanks for the tips.. I am now ready for the Rx and battery placement and how did you install everything with all the room inside the fuse?? Thanks again...
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It's been awhile but as I remember all I did was find out where each part would fit to give me the correct CG and then I wraped the parts in foam and secured them in place . I think they had a pretty good picture of where stuff went but you may want to shift something to get the CG. ENJOY !!! RED
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Hi Guys, did anyone have any C.G. issues in flight with this aircraft, wheeled version.
Tanks empty, I balanced perfectly at aft point 80 mm, but it looks like a very forward location to me, I'll check the C.G. with tanks full tomorrow.
I was able to find only one online reference to a C.G. issue with the aircraft.
Tanks empty, I balanced perfectly at aft point 80 mm, but it looks like a very forward location to me, I'll check the C.G. with tanks full tomorrow.
I was able to find only one online reference to a C.G. issue with the aircraft.
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C/G is always set on a glo powered (or gas powered) model with the fuel tank empty so if you fly it out of fuel and have to "dead stick" it in with no fuel on board you still have a balanced plane that will fly well. If you set the C/G with the tank full you will have a tail heavy airplane to try to land safely when the tank is empty or nearly empty. Can you say "hand full"?
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I don't know if you noticed the DATE of the last prior entry but it has been awhile. lol
As far as the CG goes, what the instructions call for worked fine. Once you fly it a bit you may want to move the CG a bit to conform to your flying likes. And when adjusting your CG ~ you ALWAYS check it with an " EMPTY" tank .
I don't have my Cessna any more, it decided to take a little trip all by itself . I really enjoyed all my ARC planes . I do still have some Misc. parts and Info . ENJOY RED
As far as the CG goes, what the instructions call for worked fine. Once you fly it a bit you may want to move the CG a bit to conform to your flying likes. And when adjusting your CG ~ you ALWAYS check it with an " EMPTY" tank .
I don't have my Cessna any more, it decided to take a little trip all by itself . I really enjoyed all my ARC planes . I do still have some Misc. parts and Info . ENJOY RED
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red, No, I was answering Delta Golf who posted today. Maybe his post hadn't shown up on your screen yet but it was today and I was afraid he was going to balance his airplane with a full tank. This was his first post so I thought maybe he was new at this and didn't know to balance with a full tank. I saw the O.P. was an old post this time but I have in the past been "asleep" and answered an outdated question. I don't have this particular airplane and am not sure of the wing configuration so I can't give him advice on C/G specs or what's needed to calculate it (constant cord or tapered on the ends like a real Cessna wing?).
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