New Kaos 60 ARF
01-02-2016, 07:20 PM
#1
Junior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Jefferson City,
MO
Posts: 2
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
New Kaos 60 ARF
I am writing to voice my disappointment on this item. Several members in our flying club have purchased this aircraft and have been experiencing the same issues. First is the nose gear mounting hardware that breaks with very little effort, second is the hatch cover latch which either retracts during flight causing the canopy to fly off and become lost or it will not retract at all and needs to be cut with a hack saw blade in order to remove the canopy to get to the wing bolts, and thirdly, this just happened yesterday in that in performing a soft landing, the main gear blocks tore out of the wings causing significant damage. And upon examination finding that there was very little to no glue holding these blocks in.
01-03-2016, 06:51 AM
#2
01-10-2016, 05:58 PM
#3
My Feedback: (13)
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Burlington,
MA
Posts: 22
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I have had all 3 of those failures with my plane. I called Tower and voiced my concerns and they had nothing to say. Poor quality.
Aside from that the plane flies great.
Aside from that the plane flies great.
01-14-2016, 01:11 PM
#4
I just picked one of these up last night from my LHS. I planned to make it a taildragger. I may possibly add a bolt to hold the hatch down. I will also look at the gear blocks and see if I can sneak some glue in there somehow if I can. Thanks for the heads up. At first blush, it looks great. The wing sure is thick at the root. This would seem to be a mod from the original design.
01-15-2016, 07:39 AM
#6
I do not remember any negatives pointed out in the article. But then again, maybe the reviewer did not experience any.
After looking closer at the Kaos, I do not think it is possible (without a lot of work) to convert it to a tail dragger. The main gear blocks are set too far back. Even bending new gear struts to put the wheels in the right place would make them too long.
The gear blocks in the wings can be seen through the lightening hole in the last rib. This gives you access to flow some glue onto these blocks. I am thinking of using laminating resin (thinner) and maybe thin CA on the outside, to get a better bond of these blocks. It does not look like there is a lot of glue on them. No glue squeeze out is present, which is not a good sign.
After looking closer at the Kaos, I do not think it is possible (without a lot of work) to convert it to a tail dragger. The main gear blocks are set too far back. Even bending new gear struts to put the wheels in the right place would make them too long.
The gear blocks in the wings can be seen through the lightening hole in the last rib. This gives you access to flow some glue onto these blocks. I am thinking of using laminating resin (thinner) and maybe thin CA on the outside, to get a better bond of these blocks. It does not look like there is a lot of glue on them. No glue squeeze out is present, which is not a good sign.
01-15-2016, 10:35 PM
#7
The Kaos is a great design. It's a shame GP didn't follow through 100% with the ARF. I just finished up a kit that had been framed up many years ago. A real swap meet gem. I got a little carried away with the covering and made it as pretty as my skills would allow. The .61 FSR had more wear then anticipated and was replaced with a new Kraft .61
01-17-2016, 10:14 AM
#8
The Kaos is a great design. It's a shame GP didn't follow through 100% with the ARF. I just finished up a kit that had been framed up many years ago. A real swap meet gem. I got a little carried away with the covering and made it as pretty as my skills would allow. The .61 FSR had more wear then anticipated and was replaced with a new Kraft .61
01-17-2016, 10:21 AM
#9
I find it interesting how thick the wing section is on this Tower Kaos. It is significantly thicker than the Killer Kaos .60 I built years ago. I am going to guess it is 20% or more on this new offering. Almost more of a fun fly type airfoil. I am sure this thing flies great, and will have the ability to get very slow for landing.
01-21-2016, 09:39 PM
#10
Build this, and your complaints will go away. http://bridiairplanes.com/hangar/killerchaos60.html
01-21-2016, 10:09 PM
#12
I think for good, I was after a UFO as well. I was trying to contact him for over a year. One of the guys said someone else is going to release the UFO but will be a laser cut kit. Won't be as nice as Blue Jay's cut and sanded parts but at least it will be available. Supposed to be out in a few months. The guy I was chatting with says he is getting the first kit. So far it is a secret as to who is bringing it out.
01-22-2016, 06:50 AM
#13
Maybe Eureka? http://www.eurekaaircraft.com/pattern.htm
They have a lot of pattern kits and fam wings. I am currently building a .50 Caliber. Pattern twin model. They do good work.
They have a lot of pattern kits and fam wings. I am currently building a .50 Caliber. Pattern twin model. They do good work.
03-27-2016, 04:27 AM
#18
My Feedback: (43)
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Charlotte, NC
Posts: 743
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Quick question from a fellow Kaos .60 builder... I need to replace a wheel collar and the nose gear steering control horn... both stripped out during my build. A. Because I over tighten notoriously B. I agree that the metal seems soft in this kit. What size do I need to get to replace these? I was going to use parts from a .40 size Skylark but the axle shaft is larger on the Kaos. Other than that I am happy with the build so far.
