Ok Here's the thing, everyone knows of a stick down't they. The high wing can do everything, and is a cheap build. Well I was wondering if it was possible to make the low wing. Just reverse the tail feathers so that the wing sits under the fus. What do you reckon???

Hi,
Ought to work.
That is how things get discovered!!!
Where I used to work, we had people in our RC club that would do just that!

Oh, by the way, I worked at McDonnel Douglas in St. Louis, Mo. [Now Boeing].

I hope it all works out well for you.

A long, long time ago, Midwest was the manufacturer of the "Stick" line of kits. There was the Little Stick for .25 engines, the "Sweet Stick" for .40/45 engines, the "Sweet and Low Stick" low wing stick for 40/45 engines, the "Giant Stick" for .60 engines and up, and my personal favorite, the "Das Bipe Stick" for 45 to 60 engines. What a good flying biplane.

The Sweet and Low Stick was an excellent low wing trainer if built with dihedral as the plans called for, and very aerobatic if built with a flat wing. Your right about the diference between high and low wing construction. Just turn the fuselage over and mount the tail feathers on the new top side and it's the same as a Sweet and Low Stick.

All the kits flew well and were easy to build. Wonder what happened to them all?

Thanks guys [and girls] any other suggestions

So then you mount the landing gear on what use to be the top of the wing? If so is the wing strong enough for landing gear?

Joe

It's relatively easy to add a 1/4" plywood plate to the inside of the fuse at the point of landing gear attachment. You will probably want to add a thinner plywood plate for the tailwheel mount if you intend to use a standard type of tailwheel assembly. This would be a little more work, requiring some surgery to install the plate insde the fuselage.

Be creative! And have fun.

wow got peices parts from two 60 size ugly stick crashes enough to build a bipe[sm=cool.gif] all i need is to know how far forward to set the top wing ( % of chord ).
any sugestions??

Low wing stick? You mean like this?

It's a Joss Stick ARC. I just turned the fuse upside down and mounted the wing. I did mount the tail feathers on the opposite side of the fuse. as well. I was afraid that if I kept the elevator and horizontal stab in the original spot that it might get hung up on a dipsy landing or that it may not handle the grass field with the tail on the bottom-- in the original spot.

I added a hardwood block to the area for my tailwheel mount. I glued the tail surfaces on the top------and I got lucky and didn't screw up the incidence.

Mount the tail first and then use an incidence meter to set the wing with the tail. You can shim the wing saddle if you need to. Mine was fine.

You will probably have to add a few washers to the engine mount. Most sticks have a bit of downthrust built in to the firewall. When you flip the fuse.; you will have up thrust. Thats why you'll need the washers to correct the engine thrust.

I added a bigger rudder to mine. It still won't knife edge. I don't fly it anymore. It's retired out in the garage.

Any other ideas? Thanks very much Rcpilet that is such a great help and the picture is even better, do you have the plans???

Here's another "low wing stick"....kind of a hot-rod one....

....it's a Bridi Kaos....a stick with a nice tail........there
are a few variations of the Kaos, this is an old one.

Dave.

No plans. It's an ARC. (Almost Ready to Cover)

RCM Magazine has plans for a low wing conversion called the Ultra Stick Low Wing. Check it out on their website. www.RCMmagazine.com

Jim

I successfully converted my World Models Super Stunts 40 to a low-wing for the "ARF Modification" category in my club's building contest. I didn't install a cockpit or change the shape of the fuse to improve the looks, but the finished product looks fine and flies very well. I had to build up the wing saddle to fit the shape of the wing and install a front bracket to mount the wing, but those were the only difficult parts. I did add some washers under the engine mount to maintain the proper thrustline. Putting the rudder servo in the rear was mainly for simplicity -- it let me avoid creating a new route for the pull-pull cables inside the fuselage. The CG was perfect with everything else in its original location. The plane flew absolutely perfect from the first time out with just a little tiny bit of elevator trim.

Here are some before and after pictures.

One of the members of our club took an Ultra Stick 120 and turned it over to make a low wing stick. He also added a turtle deck, cockpit, cowling and it came out very nice. I know he has said you can get plans for this conversion and that you can also get the cowling premade. Not sure of the details though. If you want to see some good pictures of it, you can go to our club website listed below and check in the Galleries section. It is in there on page 3 of the picture gallery at the top:

http://www.americanturfflyers.com

That's from the RCM conversion article and plans (#1307). The cowl, wheel pants and canopy are from Stan's Fibertech.

Jim

Thanks Jim, I could not remember the details.

I love Stiks in every shape and form. The Midwest Stiks were, without a doubt the best Stik design on
the market. I have an original Sweet Stick, Das Little Stik and Twin Stik. My son has the whole line of
Stiks. They have been out of production for a long time but there are two ways to get one. Some of
the plans are still available from Midwest........but better yet..........my son has been able to find
all of them NIB on Ebay. You have to pay a bit for them, but these are the real thing.

Hope that helps,
Andy

Giant sweet-n-low quadra 35cc

why not just buy a WM Skyraider Mach II? same thing idn' it?

It's more fun to make it YOUR design then just buy it all done by someone else. I've built every Midwest stick and converted them all one way or another. Some came out to be really nice looking sticks ???? I even took 2 crashed ones and put the different parts togeather to make one plane, OH I forgot I also used part of a crashed KAOS. Each of the crashed planes were covered different and I left them the color they were, called it the Junk Yard Dog. I flew it for quite awhile and finally gave it to a student who flew it for a long time. One thing I didn't do but a buddy did was to mount landing gear on the top then make landings both ways, WEIRD but kool. I don't do pictures on here so I can't show you what they looked like, in fact I'm not sure where the pictures are. ENJOY !!! RED

Just remembered another one thats neat and easy. We turned a Falcon 56 upside down and called it a flip Falcon, it was a nice looking plane and flew great. ENJOY !!! RED

http://www.richmondrc.com/vma/storec...ma%20x240x.htm

do u have the plans for the joss stik

Hobby People sells a Sportsman Aviation ARF of a low wing Stick for $79.99.

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i am looking for the plans so i can buliding from kit form not ARF