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Old 12-01-2003 | 05:56 PM
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Could someone help me out with a second plane. I am very interested in the scale planes i have been seeing, especially warbirds. I am looking at the great planes at-6 texan. I know everybody keeps recommending the sig 4* but i'm not too concerned with aerobatics.

I am currently very comfortable with my sig lt-40. I can fly upside down, perform rolls, loops, etc. and feel very confident with takeoffs and landings. I have been flying it for about 3 seasons (maybe 10 days at the field a season).

I am not really interested in aerobatics. A little more speed than my trainer would be nice. Looking for ARF.

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Old 12-01-2003 | 06:00 PM
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The AT-6 would probably be fine. Don't rule out the PT-19 or T-34 either. There are quite a few of each of these by different companies and in various sizes. Check out some reviews as well, might make you feel a little more comfortable before you buy.
Old 12-01-2003 | 06:50 PM
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A guy at our field has one of the Great Planes Ryan STA 1.20s and it flies great. He has a Supertiger 75 in it and it's all the engine you need. Nice scale looks and flies better than a lot of sport planes.
Old 12-01-2003 | 08:15 PM
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djw1978,
You really should go with a good low wing plane such as the 4*. A low wing airplane will fly much different than what you are used to with your high wing trainer. Moving up to a low wing aircraft is not just for the aerobatic abilities. Going straight from a high wing trainer to a warbird is gonna be quite a handful.
Old 12-01-2003 | 08:25 PM
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PT-19 should be a good step. Check out the reviews on the Great Planes ARF or the Hangar 9 (both very similar). The Great Planes is still available.
Old 12-01-2003 | 08:30 PM
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You might consider a Tiger II or Tiger 60. Both low wing and great advanced trainers. I think you will gain a lot from something like these. You are looking at a huge diffrence between the LT and warbird types......don't be in to big a hurry because it might cost you.....[&o]
Old 12-01-2003 | 11:43 PM
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Check out the Great Planes Spacewalker ARF. Power it with a 91 size 4 stroke and you will have a great flying combo. Do a search on the spacewalker and you will get tons of infomation.

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Old 12-02-2003 | 01:01 AM
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While true it's somewhat of a step up from a trainer some of the new ARF warbirds have very good handling characteristics. I have the 60 size H9 Mustang and it lands slower than my Tiger 2. On the other hand I also have a H9 PT19, try to get a little too slow and that baby will tip stall on you in a heartbeat.
Old 12-02-2003 | 01:11 AM
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I too, think a warbird should be plane #3 or 4 (especially if its' a taildragger-)- a entry level low-wing would be perfect (I always recommend the 4* also ) But if scale is what you are after, the T-34 mentioned above flies great, lands relatively slow, and looks the part- A PT-19 is also a great low wing trainer style warbird- The GP AT-6 looks pretty good but never flew well for me, the Kyosho is much better quality wise if you have to have a Texan.

Sounds like you have the trainer down pretty well, Just pay close attention to the CG and control throws on the aforementioned planes as it makes a much bigger difference than with a trainer -


Keep us posted! From the 2nd plane on it just gets to be more and more fun!

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Old 12-02-2003 | 06:23 AM
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A Space walker or a SIG Something Extra are both good choices.
Old 12-02-2003 | 06:51 AM
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World Models T-34. Yeah it's stand way off scale but for price/performance
it's tough to beat. $129 at Quantum or elsewhere.
Good hardware, complete, flys great, easy to repair (trust me, I know)
I'm on my second after having beat the first one into submission.
Have flown it with a Magnum .46 11x7 and a Magnum .52 four stroke.
The .52 flys nice and docile, the .46 picks the speed up a bit but not
something that is hard to handle.
Landings with a 11x4 are slow and easy.
Old 12-02-2003 | 12:50 PM
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GP Lancair!
Old 12-02-2003 | 01:06 PM
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ORIGINAL: Geistware

A Space walker or a SIG Something Extra are both good choices.
Indeed!!!

Add to that the Sig 4 Star 60 (or 40).

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Old 12-02-2003 | 03:02 PM
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DJW,

I've got an idea of the perfect plane for you. You stated that you wanted something scale, and fast. The answer is the GP Shoestring. It is a shoulder wing racer that flies like it is on a rail. It has to be the best flying airplane I own. Powered by a Saito 1.00, it currently holds our club prop plane speed record at 128 MPH. Is that fast enough for you? Of course you could always put a smaller engine on it, but no matter what sized engine you choose, it will fly great. It literally floats all the way down for landing without ever even attempting to stall. I does like to come in hot, so you would have to slow it way down on the final leg of your approach. I can honestly say that this plane could be someones first taildragger trainer, it flies and lands that good.

Crashmaster has a good choice also. I have the Lancair and it flies great and looks great in the air. Another great choice!

If you are dead set on a warbird, I would suggest the P-47 Thunderbolt. It has a very thick chord, so it likes to glide, not your typical warbird characteristic. Most of the new warbird ARFs out on the market all have redesigned wings to keep them from stalling so badly. I have heard that most fly and land great, but each still has some sort of warbird characteristic that can be tough on a person without much warbird, or low wing experience.

Good luck,

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Old 12-02-2003 | 09:34 PM
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My second plane was a Falcon Trading Jupiter. Very durable plane powered was supplied by a Webra Speed 50, so it was fast...
Old 12-03-2003 | 05:42 AM
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Check out the Kangke Monocoupe, it's scale, it's big, east to fly, easy to build, flies great on a 120FS, and uses standard servos. and the best part is there aren't five at every field
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I second the gp lancair.....
Old 12-06-2003 | 08:23 PM
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If you want a warbird get a warbird don't waste your time on something you are going to be board with in a short time. If you can fly your trainer well then don't worry about changing to a low wing plane they are not that much different. Just realize it will go where you point it, and will land faster. Keep the throw rates conservative and you won't have a problem. If you want a warbird two guys at our field have the Modeltech P-47 (60 size) and one guy flew it as his second plane. The retracts are kind of a pain on the grass field but they are both getting along.

I have been flying for 9 months now. I started with a trainer, soloed after three weekends, one month later I was flying a Sig Somethin Extra, two months later I added a GSP Katana to the fleet, followed by a Phoenix models Sukhoi and am currently flying a Dave Patrick Edge 540 as well.
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Old 12-07-2003 | 12:36 PM
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i dont think p47 would be a great plane, but it really is a great looking plane, you can try that, if you want.

Try a spacewalker, a scanner (if it is ever imported).

The first flight with a low wing will be scary- especially if you're not ready for a stall. A low wing is much more difficult to land. It takes some time to get used to a low winger.

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