Want to start airplanes i already know to start with a trainer but since i pick up on things quick was wondering if anybody flew or has the Hanger 9 TOC Ultimate and is it a good plane, would u recommend it and how does it fly.
Remember i don't know jack about planes yet but christmas is coming hoping fer a hanger 9 alpha and any input on that plane would be greatly appreciated thanx
ZAK

I have one and find it to be very easy to fly. This is a complex aircraft and would not let a new person get one. Fly for a few more years and work up to this plane. When your ready, this plane is to much fun.
Dennis

Ummm, you definately need a few flights under your belt for this plane.

hey if you want one get it if you have the cash. all said and done flippen the prop 8,500 to 10,000 done the way it needs to be. just don't let your freinds see you cry if you thumb it in . really you should get a cheaper plane just because it is easy to fly don't make it the best choise . if you want to throw down some money for your next plane . look at sigs rascal 110 i sold a new guy my old one and he learned on it . but if you don't care if you have to buy 3 or more ultamate bibes go for it . but remember that could cost you 20 to 30 thousand dollars the time you get to were you can fly it.

I know im hoping fer a hanger 9 alpha trainer to start with is it any good also? and was just wondering how the plane is because theres one movie and no reviews What does the TOC ultimate come with(just courious b-cuz it doesn't say)THAX..Zak

when i get one pleez help a newbie out

the alfa trainer is one of the best flying trainer i have flow it a great plane

the big ultamate bipe come with the plane nothing else no wheels nothing

Maybe you are noto aware of the differences...

All the trainers out there are pretty much good flyers and just right to learn on. You'd like the Alpha. You should find your local club and join up. Get an instructor to take you up with a buddy box, and learn.

The TOC Ultimate is a $5000+ plane... the trainer is a $300 plane...

You'll bounce, crack, smash and otherwise cause damage to your first few planes. Everyone does. Though you might want to get the NexStar trainer.... it comes with Realflight so you can practice all winter on your computer... that's how I learned. I started flying 2 seasons ago, and was flying 33% gassers my 2nd season... the simulator was very helpful

But you COULD be a prodigy and be ready to fly that big TOC Bipe in a year or so.

thanx how much more is it because the alpha is only 310 with everything but glow igniter fuel and starter, Just asking bout ultimate because it looks awsome and wondering if it would be an ok second plane? also please keep your awsome input coming Thanx
Zak

I'm aware, trainer is slower and easier to fly hince trainer, the ultimate is fer experienced fliers but, i was wondering if it was a good plane because there arn't any reveiws or much reading material on it

The NexStar has a street price of about $400... WELL worth the extra $$$ for the simulator... it also features an O.S. .46fx, perhaps one of the best 2-strokes in it's size.

I've seen this trainer in hand, and it's a very nicely built plane with rounded fuse (built up) that give it a more scale look.

As far as a second plane I'd suggest either a U-CAN-DO-.46 (you can move your engine & servos from the trainer into it) and it offers you a stable platform that's capable of many of the most advanced 3D maneuvers.

That or a profile funfly like a Carl Goldberg Extreme 330 or their new Edge... The Morris the Knife is a great flier too.

These planes will klet you work on the most important aspect of advancing your skills. Flying th eplane with the sticks. By that I mean a trainer teaches you the basics of flying, but the plane flies, you correct the heading.

On a more wilder plane, you are always having to make inputs to determine your heading. Inverted, sideways, spinning... all require you to add some stick to continue straight and to re-direct out of. The goal is to begin to "become one" with flying an RC plane. By that I mean you simply do not think about what input to give... you just do because you see the planea nd what it's doing.

You'll see more as you progress.

you sound like a young guy... in your teens maybe? You'll catch on quick... especially if you are big gamer... (I play Quake, Unreal Tournament, Medal of honor, etc.) because that builds a tremendous amount of eye hand coordination.


Lastly, there isn't a lot of info on the H9 TOC Ultimate because it's a fairly new offering and it is quite an investment. And usually it'll take most guys 3 months or more to get it together.

There is probably $150 of just extensions in there.

Most guys use redundant batteries & switches (in case one fails)

Some even use dual receivers for the same reason.

Then there is the ability to transport... the H9 TOC will not fit in a shortbed truck or any minivan I know of... Even a full size, long bed pickup would have some finagling to do... Then there is the several minutes spent assembling it at the field, and worse the seemingly twice as ling disassembly...

Ah well... As you get into the hobby more and more, you'll want to kep RCU handy... there's alot of guys who have "Been there, done that."

Take care and good luck!

Yeah how did you guess, I'm 15 and thanx fer the help i'm surpized that its only 400 becuase good simulators are like 200 alone And if you want to start cars tell me i'm going to sell my HPI nirto MT fer around 150 to help me get some money. How many year should i fly before i should think about the ultimate because i'll be stuck with my trainer for a while like 3-5 years probably because right now i have two nitro trucks( one losi xxx-nt and a HPI nitro rs4 MT) and a electric boat from kyosho that im convertin to nitro so i can be really busy and short on cash sometimes but oh well these are awsome and want to start planes now!!!

Do r/c planes like can you notice and turbulance like in a real plane like see it drop 3 feet or something this is probably a stupid question.

THANX
ZAK

You'll know when you are ready.

To be honest... it takes about a year in the hobby before you hone in on what you'll like or not. Don't rush out and buy anything. That's why a club is important. you can see planes fly and talk with other guys about why they gravitate to a certain aspect of the hobby... some like scale, others like 3D, other's like electic flight, etc....

The first thing I did was go out and buy a bunch of stuff that later I found I didn't like, want or need.

The simulator is the real deal RealFLight... BUT it's a special version that only has the NexStar trainer on it. It uses the real transmitter with an interface to fly the "cyber plane".


Wind can be tricky... and you do "feel" some turbulence, but not so much the 3 foot drops... you fly the plane in "ground wind" not the 100o's of feet where such changes are occuring.

For the most part flying isn't to difficult, it's the directing the plane when it's coming at you that can be tricky... if you've done a lot of cars (sounds like you have) then it'll be a good bit easier for you.

Somewhere i read that the more powerful the engine the more wind you could fly in or something like that is that true

The bigger the plane (usually) the more wind you can fly in without too much
troubles...

I meant to give you the link of a new review on the NexStar here on RCU:

http://www.rcuniverse.com/magazine/a...article_id=258

Oh... and I see someone has a new in box one for sale for $350... good deal...

http://www.rcuniverse.com/market/item.cfm?itemId=11339

how many years do u think i would need before i could fly the ultimate because i'll probably be stuck with a trainer far at least 2-3 years

I'd say at least that long...

Like i said... quit worrying about you're next plane.... focus on your FIRST one...

sound like a plan, what do u fly?

Check your PMs and email please and let me know.




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