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Old 12-19-2003 | 10:24 AM
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i currently have a superstar 40 and was wondering waht plane would be the next step-up?
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Old 12-19-2003 | 10:51 AM
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There are a lot of great 2nd planes......my personal favorite is the Goldberg Tiger 2. Another good choice is the 4 Star 40.
Old 12-19-2003 | 11:16 AM
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Don't forget the Hobbico BrightStar....A low wing, flat bottom that flies great with a 46 or a 61. Or, pick yourself up about any Mfg's 40 size Stick.

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Tiger II!

I'm gonna train on it.

Just don't use the unbranded hinges; use the Jet Hinges also supplied in the ARF.
Old 12-19-2003 | 12:51 PM
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World Model T-34 Mentor is recommeded 2nd plane as well
Old 12-19-2003 | 12:57 PM
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I have to go with the 4*, very good second plane. I'm building the somethin extra as my second, but I think the 4* is more docile and easier to land. Just MY $.02
Old 12-19-2003 | 01:54 PM
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Don't forget the Hobbico BrightStar....A low wing, flat bottom that flies great with a 46 or a 61. Or, pick yourself up about any Mfg's 40 size Stick.

Gary

I agree with Gary on the BriteStar from Hobbico. Its a very fun plane. My friend has one as a sunday lazy flier and I have the older version the SkyVista. Both are fun and easy to fly. Shame both are discontinued []. If you see one at your LHS pick one up.

If not avilable try the 4Star from Sig. Good choice
Old 12-19-2003 | 05:10 PM
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i am gonna get the hangar 9 ultra stick 40.
as far as the motor goes waht should i get?
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i am gonna get the hangar 9 ultra stick 40.
as far as the motor goes waht should i get?

hmm..another plane I forgot about. That was my friends second plane and he loved it! he flew it with a simple 46FX and it hauled around very nicely
Old 12-19-2003 | 05:13 PM
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waht about the four strokes what company and model? or should iget a 2 stroke?
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Magnum .52 XLS 2 stroke should be good.
Old 12-19-2003 | 05:16 PM
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can u add some links and also will all the maintenance be the same on a 4 stroke and 2 stroke
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I have no clue!!!

If anyone else contradicts me, listen to them.
Ima beginner too.
Old 12-19-2003 | 05:32 PM
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anybody waht makes a good engine. the rpm, the size, the weight, etc.?
and for this airplane waht would be a good choice? this plane is pretty light so it has good potential I think.
Old 12-19-2003 | 08:51 PM
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World Models T-34 with an OS 46FX is an excellent combo for your second plane. You can use all the supplied hardware, it has an excellent low wing, can be propped for speed or aerobatics, comes with a nice cowl, I could go on.

The OS is a really well made engine just don't lean it out to much.

Magnums are crap, plane and simple. Four stars are nice but no sheeting on the wing seems a bit cheap to me and I think it's just a bit dated in it's design.

For $130 and no need to buy a bunch of replacement hardware the T-34 is hard to beat.
Old 12-20-2003 | 08:29 AM
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my question is still not answered will the maintenance be the same on a 4 stroke and 2 stroke?
Old 12-20-2003 | 10:32 AM
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I have to add my vote for an Ultra Stick 40 with a OS 46FX and 12x4 APC. Easy to fly and the quad flaps keeps it entertaining.
Old 12-20-2003 | 10:45 AM
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ORIGINAL: skate5290

my question is still not answered will the maintenance be the same on a 4 stroke and 2 stroke?
Yep, Ultra Stick is a good plane. Very good quality and flies great. If there's gusty winds out, not a problem. This plane will fly right through it. Great plane. A 46FX is plenty for this plane.
Old 12-20-2003 | 11:40 AM
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ORIGINAL: skate5290

my question is still not answered will the maintenance be the same on a 4 stroke and 2 stroke?
Yep, the Ultra Stick ain't a bad choice either.
Old 12-20-2003 | 11:50 AM
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I vote for the World Models super stunts 40 size, which is currently one of my favorite airplanes and comes with me to the field every time I go. Available at www.airborne-models.com. Here are some of the things I like about it:

It's an arf for only $99 with ultracote covering. I put it together very quickly.

It's bigger than the ultra stick 40 (it has a 66" wingspan), but cheaper.

It's lightweight for its size (it flies beautifully with an os 46 fx). I can get almost the same vertical performance out of this plane as one of the guys at my field gets on his ultra stick 40 with a 90 size saito four-stroke. It's sized like the ultra stick 60, but is significantly lighter.

It's a tricycle gear (good for new flyers), but can readily be converted to a taildragger (i did this with mine).

It takes off, flies, and lands absolutely wonderfully. IMHO, this plane is much easier to fly than my tower trainer 40 or my friend's avistar. It basically will not stall.

Some of the other things to consider:

Leading edges are not sheeted.

Doesn't come with extra servo slots installed and extra parts for using four wing servos, though it can be modified for this.

Comes as a tricycle gear, not a taildragger.

It includes metric hardware, which is a pain if everything else you have is standard.
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my question is still not answered will the maintenance be the same on a 4 stroke and 2 stroke?
The only difference as far as maintenence between the two is that a four stroke has valves that will need to be adjusted every now and then. It is very simple to do this. They have to be readjusted a couple of times during the break in process which is around a gallon or two of fuel, but after it's broken in, you'll hardly ever have to adjust them. It doesn't hurt to check them after several hours of running though. Once you go to a four stroke, I'll bet that you'll never want to go back to a two stroke.

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Old 12-20-2003 | 01:45 PM
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so waht are the pros of having a 4 stroke over a 2 stroke?
are they both equally strong or what? etc.
and what are some good brand names of each that u guys would recommend?
thanx
Old 12-20-2003 | 01:48 PM
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Then again the WM T-34 is my first choice for a second plane.
Old 12-20-2003 | 06:48 PM
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WM T-34 with OS 46FX. Its a good one to practice aerobatics and landings. handles the wind very well.

Brian
Old 12-21-2003 | 01:05 PM
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Some differences between 4-Stroke and 2-Stroke Engines:
4-strokes are quieter
4-strokes get better fuel economy
2-strokes generate more RPM (11,000-13,000 rpm with prop
while 4-strokes rev to around 9,500 rpm)
4-strokes generate much more torque and will swing a larger prop.
4-strokes have a realistic sound similar to a real airplane engine.
(The sound of the engine is lower in pitch than a 2-stroke)


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