Hey everyone, I just bought my second aiplane, and I chose the GP cessna 182 sklane...All in all I am very impressed with the construction and quality of the aircraft...Although the instructions could be a little more in depth...This is my question, aside from designing custom fully functional flaps for the aircraft, I really don't like the push/pull design for the rudder, and elevator...I purchased futaba High tourques for these two surfaces, but I was wondering if it would benefit me at all to install these surfaces on pull/pull...Now I know this is only a .40 size airplane...But after flying it a few times, it truly does have a litlle bit of acrobat tucked way down deep inside its scale look...Because I overpowered the aircraft a little bit with the saito .72, and a 12x8 prop, it likes to fly inverted all day long, with really no problems, even in recovery...But I feel in these snaps and such, i feel like a pull/pull system is much more fail safe...Any opinions on that would be greatly appreciated, thanks alot

ED

I can't help you on your pull/pull question, But I just finished my cessna and I used Dave Brown pushrods on rudder and elevator.
Sorry to answer your question with a question but are you having any problems with the landing gear splaying out?

I dont quite follow you about what you are asking. splaying, not fimiliar with that term

I think he means bending outward, or bowing. Sounds as though his gear is soft.

yes, thats what Im talking about. I don't know where I got that word from??

1 entry found for splaying.
splay ( P ) Pronunciation Key (spl)
adj.
Spread or turned out.
Clumsy or clumsily formed; awkward.

n. Architecture
An oblique angle or bevel given to the sides of an opening in a wall so that the opening is wider on one side of the wall than on the other.

v. splayed, splay·ing, splays
v. tr.
To spread (the limbs, for example) out or apart, especially clumsily.
To make slanting or sloping; bevel.
To dislocate (a bone). Used of an animal.

v. intr.
To be spread out or apart.
To slant or slope.

Turns out it is a word. I'm 'splaying' my fingers on the keyboard as I type this.

well that makes me feel better I thought I was inventing words

I'm trying to decide whether to buy the Cessna ARF. Does everyone eventually just chuck the wheel pants and struts? I fly off grass that is very smooth, cut down to about 3/8" and can usually grease 'em in, but occasionally land a little hard due to wind or "inattention!".

To me this beautiful model isn't such without the full scale treatment! "Sigh"

Gary, I love this airplane, and I love flying it, even though I am about to start with the more aerobatic aircraft, I will always keep this plane, I love the durabilty of it, and with the addition of fully functional flaps, it makes this aircraft a dream to fly and land...with the power that I provide on this airplane, I can land main gear first, flaps at 30 degrees, and touch down just like you would in the real airplane...I fly on grass as well, and the flaps subtracted the need to take away my wheel pants...definitly an awesome plane, good luck

This is one of the BEST arf's on the market, bar none, in my opinion. I fly mine off of grass as well and I had left the wheel pants off for the first season. Couldn't bear it anymore as the plane looks too good to be without the wheel pants. They really do finish the look. A Saito 72 is A LOT of motor for this plane. I have a 56 in mine with a 3 blade prop and it hauls. I've been asked countless times if I've put the 72 in it. If you search this forum you'll find many posts of happy Cessna owners. I'm a builder so ARF's don't generally impress me but this one is worth the money, any day.

Mark

Thanks for the comments, guys. Yes, I combed RCU for as much info as possible and noted several fliers having chucked their pants. Whoooo, that doens't sound good! Well, maybe I will try it!

BTW, is there any way to install stripe aileron horns to be able to actuate the flaps with one servo?

The main gear spreading is a result of bouncy landings. Land softer. Making the landing gear stiffer would just make the belly of the plane rip out instead of bending the aluminum. Its much easier to straighten the aluminum than to rebuild the fuselage.

The Pull-Pull or going to 4-40 pushrods on the .72 4-stroke powered one is a very good idea. The 2-56 (or is it 2 mm on that one?) pushrods are really inadequate to that size engine.

I've helped a beginner with assembling one of these ARF's... and yes they are VERY nicely done.[8D]

The student (his 3rd plane... and he had just soloed a few days before) unfortunately refused to listen to his instructor and managed to put the plane in so hard: the LE and TE of the wings met... The rudder went through the entire fuselage and wrapped around the engine (what was left of the engine) Amazingly...the covering on the wings wasn't punctured ANYWHERE.[:-] and the TE was unbroken on one wing. (you could hold it by the TE and it was like an accordian... returned to the correct shape of the wing.) Not one useable piee of the radio system... I think he salvaged a few clevices and control horns.

Help!! I dont understand all I know about the GP Cessna 40/ This is going to be my next plane and, although I understand it does NOT have flaps ( that would be the 595.00 model !! ) I keep reading comments about flaps on the 40 model. Please clue me in. Would flaps be a mod and if so , em... "how to?" without rebuilding the wing?

thanks, Bill

Bill there isn't stock flaps on this model stock...but the way the wing it constructed, it is very easy to shave off bout an inch and install some cusotme made flaps, using slave channels on your radio...it flys great, just dont use them until you get about 3-4 hours on the plane, they will make you plane stall if you dont have the proper power in the nose

ED