what trainer do you think is the best
i am thinking of getting a s0l0 by h9

anybody have a arf trainer not built
a .46 Fx and 4 ch radio would help to

I would recommend the hobbico Avistar

I wouldn't

However, I would recommend a SIG LT-40...

I saw somewhere on here that a club has a whole fleet of Solo's as club trainers, so I guess they must be ok...

I would.

oh yea and how is the alpha arf
i would get it arf and add an .46 fx engine is that good how good is the alpha anything better

People who've got Alphas seem to like 'em. You might have a little trouble getting hold of a 46Fx as they've been discontinued.

You could do worse than to get the Alpha RTF package with the Evolution engine and JR radio

I always liked the standard size Ugly Stik (the one with dihedral)as a trainer.
It'll fly slow and forgiving if throttled back but as you advance is suprisingly
aerobatic and it couldn't be simpler to build.

tommy s

The evolution engine is one of the better engines on the market. It is strong and reliable.

If you know anyone who fly 's or check you area for a club,skip the trainer's and start with the Great planes supersportster 40 ARF it is easier to fly and lands like a trainer...I had a trainer and a supersporster at the same time .After flying the trainer for a short time I tried the SS it was ALOT easier to fly .....Tower has them for 139.00 and if you buy one now it come's with a 20.00 coupon and with a 46ax it's a great combo...I recovered mine ....JW

I would recommend the cheapest used trainer you can find, because after about two months you will be board with it and probably never fly it again. I learned on a Hangar 9 Alpha trainer a year ago, it did the job. I flew it for two months then moved on to a Sig Somthin Extra, then a CMP Katana, a Phoenix Sukhoi and currently a DP Edge 540. I just sold my trainer with an extra wing (built with no dihedral) for $50.00.

Buy the World Models Super Frontier 40 for around US$99.00. It has decent hardware, and its flight characteristics are good for training hense the name of a trainer......... duh huh?

It's what I learned on, and was able to take off and land solo after only about 4 hrs., on the sticks! Flying C/L planes all my life though has helped though......

Dennis

A lot of the so called "trainers" are so squirrley to fly I've seen experienced pilots
have a hard time flying them. Just because the box says trainer don't make it so.
What you want is a fairly large plane with plenty of wing area so it will fly slow
enough that you will have time learn what to do. I suggest going to a local flying
field and see what seems to be working the best for the students there.
You'll get all kinds of opinions about which plane is "best" but the truth is you can
learn on any airplane if you are willing to listen to a good instructor and if the
instructor is good enough to teach you. I taught my son to fly on one of my
pattern ships.
DO NOT try to learn by yourself !!
It's not hard, just different than anything you've ever done and takes practice.

tommy s

Go with the H9 Alpha RTF. You get everything you need in one box.

If you already have a radio and engine go with the LT 40 ARF. IMHO![8D]

Horizon Hobby has some used evolution engines for sale .Check out the Horizon web site --link on the Attic .Go with the LT-40.. ARF -Great plane --

I think it would be in your best interest to stay away from trainers with flat bottom wings and look for semi-symmetrical. They do not balloon as much in wind, there is not as much trim change with speed, they can become very aerobatic as you get better, they are just as stable, and fly just as slow. My personal favorites are the Kangke Astro and the Hobbico Avistar.

With the electronics that come with it.. I'm amazed that nobody recommends the Hobbico NexStar .46... plus it comes with a NexStar edition of Realflight

The NextStar is a nice plane ,but @$400.00 a copy --little pricey --

I'm with "buying a used one" idea. I bought a FlightStar 40 with an OS 40FP, S148 servos, and a gold labled Futaba AM receiver and transmitter all for $100. The thing flew and ran perfectly. My first few solos I damaged it a little bit but repaired it and it was back up in the air the next day. It's true that you will out grow it quickly. I gutted mine and put all the stuff on a fun fly (Chief Aircraft Fun Air 3D).

You might even try bypassing the trainer and just get a H9 Ultra Stick 40 or a stable/fun low wing like a Sig 4 star. Put them on low rates and they fly more stable than any trainer. Take off and landings will be a breeze. The wind won't blow you all over the place like a trainer. It's true that some instructors at my field don't do so well on trainers, especially on windy days. Trainers tend to eat up engine power with the drag of that flat bottom in high winds. Some have flown away and never returned (mine almost did a few times).

Joe

I learned on a Hangar 9 Easy 2, shich are now selling for $100 or much less in some cases. No gluing, just a screwdrivder for assembly.

I got mine for $150 and it included a rocking MDS .48 that now powers my Great Planes Super Sportster. The Super Sportster is, IMHO is a little faster and a lot less forgiving than a flat-bottom dihedral wing trainer.

Get one that's easy to fly, 'cause you will want a sportier plane after you get better at the basics.

Regards.

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You WILL crash and this is THE plane to crash with! I promise that when you nose dive into the ground, any balsa trainer will be down at least for the day. However the Airmadillo's are B E A S T S! I crashed mine so many times and normally just replaced the prop. Dont get a balsa plane until you know how to takeoff and land! The Airmadillo can be Ready To Fly in about two hours after you cut the packaging tape.

DONT GET A BALSA TRAINER YET! THIS PLANE IS GREAT FOR TRAINING AS IT JUST ABOUT CANNOT BE BROKEN!

When you dork your Kadet, your lessons are over for the day. With the Airmadillo 10 mins and you are back up learning how to fly!

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Most people are started on forty sized trainers. I agree that larger is better, larger planes tend to react slower when practicing skills. You can learn on any plane, if you have the dough to buy replacements. A Hangar 9 Ultra Stik would make a good trainer for someone coming back into the hobby, but it doesn't have any self correcting features built in. If you bank it hard it stays that way or rolls over, the stick is a plane that must be corrected by flying it. The dihedral built into the wing of a trainer, will correct its flight given enough altitude and proper use of the throttle. If you get a trainer out of control during your session, back off the throttle center the sticks and it will settle down. Then continue to fly, my advise is get the Rtf from either Tower Hobbies or Horizon Hobbies. Immediately, open the box plug in the charger connect it to the transmitter and receiver. Putting the plane together takes about 45 minutes to and hour, your flying the next day. If you have a quick charger the same day. Have fun!!!!!!

will

also is there any info about the hangar 9 arrow arf
good bad

paul

i would say that the vmar discovery arf is the best

Apache ll now updated to apache lll $100 (vmar) big for a 40 mine putts
around fine with an irvine 40 diesel (actually pretty quick at full throttle
5 yrs old and still going still fun to fly (tail dragger version)

Here's the second vote for an Airmadillo. I'm an old time flyer that had to get out of it for about 20 years. I wish these were around 20 years ago. Don't go balsa till you've gotten good with one of these. It'll save you a ton of heartache.

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