i can't figure out what went wrong! i was just starting to climb(maiden flight) the plane banked hard left, tried countering to the right and it didn't have enough speed. i did place 2 1/4 oz weights on the left wing tip because it was raising significantly. i read another sory about the plane banking hard right and he lost it. i though for sure he didn't laterally balance it. i did hit down hard. very minor damage. this plane is built pretty cheap. anyone else own the GP 182 and find similiar problems. ps im using a magnum 46 2 stroke with 11 x 7 prop.

Tom:

Looks like you pulled a beginner's trick. But don't feel bad, a lot of people never learn not to do the same thing.

If you have good speed, well above stall, the ailerons will easily correct a bad bank angle.

But here's the nasty. You have one wing low, the airspeed is down, you feed opposite aileron, and the plane spins in, still toward the low wing. Why?

Putting the aileron down on the low wing effectively increases its angle of attack, and being close to stall before, it goes into full stall. then spin and crunch.

Two ways to correct without inducing a stall, the first isn't hard to remember, just give the plane a little down elevator and ignore the bank until you get more airspeed, if you have room to go away from the runway to the side at the altitude you've reached this works fine.

The preferable method takes a little thought to understand, but it keeps you climbing and stays in line with the runway. It's opposite rudder. WHAT? Right. Left wing down, give the plane right rudder. This yaws the plane away from the low wing, and increases the low wing's airspeed as it lowers the airspeed on the high wing, the plane levels itself due to the different lift one side to the other.

Hard to learn, harder to make it automatic, but one more reason for learning to fly with the rudder.

Now, since your damage was minimal, patch the plane and start doing coordinated turns. In other words, use the rudder.

Hope this helps.

Bill.

This is so true... The rudder IS the key to control. I like to think of the ailerons as simply a way to manage the "attitude" of your wings. I use them to keep the wings level or to manage the angle of bank. I USE the rudder for turning the plane, or to control the heading. In the above mentioned scenario, a little down elevator AND a bit of right rudder would have had you flying again in short order. It's important to remember that you need to let the plane build plenty of speed before trying to take off.

Excellent replies to the initial post. I learned all about rudder usage when flying 3 channel gliders off of high starts and later electric winches.

im fixing it now and ill remember this for tomorrow!! the wheelpants seem to slow me down significantly. but this plane did seem to speed up quick. quick than th etrainer of course and even than my eindecker. it will be my first non flat wing flight!! thanks for all the responses!! ps it'll be a long time before i can attempt the DC3[X(]

well the bird went up today!! flies ok . i did need alot of rudder for turns. i read others post they have trouble landing due to high speed. i had a 5-6 mph wind and no issues with speed. the landing gear does bend easy thogh. this is a big complaint thats definetly true. i thouched down very smooth and stilll bent them!! hey better than crashing!!! i think ill try my kyosho spitfire tomorrow. anyone with experinece with this one?? they did stop production which scares me!!

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