You said it. I am pleased with the results of patience. This hobby can't afford otherwise.

Hey Luke,
Nice looking Giles.
I just finished one a couple weeks ago. I love the way the Giles flies. It is not as lite feeling as the Cap, but flies so straight.
Just dont slow it down too much on Final but still no worse than any other I have flown. If you have not noticed already there is very little coupling with rudder. To me that makes it a great plane to learn precision and good stuff like rolling circles.
Have fun- you will really like it as you get more acustommed to it.
Here is mine.

Thanks Slyder. You have a very nice looking Giles also. Great color! This being only my 2nd flight I haven't gotten into wringing her out yet. I am looking forward to the weekend (tomorrow).[8D] I fdid notice the landings were a little hotter than I like, but hey, we want them all slow and easy eh?

Blue Skies![8D]

Hey guys,

The instructions call for 5/16" up elevator. Once I set the throws to this, it looped fine, but it wasn't as much reaction as I would like to see. Today I set the throw at 1/2" up and it went right back to rolling out (to the right) This may be because my lateral balance is not set correctly due to having the engine mounted sideways. I'm going to balance it tomorrow and try it again. I have very limited flight experience and probably started with a plane that I shouldn't have. Liked the looks and bought it. It sure is nice to have a resource like this one to get advice. Thanks for all your posts.

Slyder - brought up a good point in an earlier post you might also want to check. Are you getting an even throw up and down on your elevators? Make sure they are mechanically set to neutral with your elevator trim set to neutral as well. Then check the throws and the speed. If one elevator goes up a little more than the other one this can cause you to roll out of a loop. Each elevator should move at the same speed as well. If you have one moving faster than the other it can cause the same results. Just something to check while you are doing the lateral balance.

As Roger points out there are a an untold number of reasons why a plane might pitch to one side or snap a particular way etc.

A couple of the more important ones are where your lateral balance is and your various thrust angles of your engine setup. If the snap is chronic and not predictable your answer will probably come from these areas.

Cheers

Phil

I balanced the plane laterally. My servo throws are equal and at the same speed. 7/16" of up elevator is all it will take without the roll.
I like with the reaction the plane has with this amount of throw. It seems to fly great now! If it goes down now it's probably my own fault, but I'll still find something to blame it on.

Bullseye

Hope it doesnt go down and you really enjoy the flying envelope this good flyer has

Cheers

Phil

I have the same plane with an OX 1.6FX. Make SURE you have the elevators set on the low rate exactly as the book calls for. I have had many expert pilots fly mine and initially comment on the small amount of elevator throw, but once in the air, they loved it and coudn't believe how stable the plane was and how well it looped with so little elevator throw. You may seem to run out of elevator on landing, as this plane has little drag, like the Extra, and tends to come in pretty hot. Better to come in a little hot, than to run out of flying air five feet off the runway. I have may high rate only set at less than twice the low, and all I can get for 3-d. On high rates, at medium to high throttle setting, my Giles tends to snap or roll out quickly if I put to much elevator command in it. But it is easy to snap on low rates using aileron and elevator quickly, together. Normal tendency for swept wing airplanes that are a little on the heavy side.
This plane flys like a big pattern airplane, like was mentioned previously, except it will snap and tumble as good as my Ultimate bipe. It does beautiful rolling circles, and all of the IMAC pattern stuff, really well, once you get used to its' tendencies. Like the gent previously stated, fly it a couple mistakes high and trim, trim and trim some more. I needed very little aileron and elevator mixing to the rudder, for knife edge flight. You can make this mix, throttle set at above 35 to 50%, so it doesn't interfere with your landings if your using rudder to crab in on cross wind landings.
This airplane isn't really a hovering plane, with a moderate engine like mine at higher altitudes. One guy in my club is using a Saito 1.8 on his, and isn't as vertically challenged as mine is. I had to put a couple ounces of weight on the tail to balance with the 1.60 FX, so a bigger, heavier engine on mine would also incease wing loading. With mine just under 12.5 pounds, the wing loading is about 29.5 ounces per square foot, which is very acceptable for a scale, aerobatic model.
Once you get used to it, try starting with the IMAC basic aerobatic schedule, you won't be disappointed, as it rolls straight, hammerheads well and so on. I have my CG dead in the middle of the recommended range, and like there, with no surprises.
Hope you enjoy yours as much as I have mine.

Happy Landings,
Mike B.

MIke

Agree with everything you say.

I've also found that the Giles will side slip easily to land with a little crossed rudder and ailerons showing no tendency to fall out of the sky at all.

I suggest that anyone practices this with some height first but it is a good way, like with a pattern plane, to slow it down for a nice smooth landing.

Cheers

Phil