Has anyone built & flown this plane from Global? If so, what engine. How did you
like the fit & finish? Could it be hand launched with the .30 4 stroke?
Thanks,

Johnny C!

I have one waiting for me to build new struts after my last (very very very very short ) flight ( very short )!!!!! Quite a handfull on the ground but not bad in the air.

I have a GMS 32 2 stroke / pitts muffler and 11x4 MA prop at 13600 rpm in it and could definately be hand launched but I doubt a similar size 4 stroke would do more than scale power.

Definately not for the novice!

I have one that I have flown 3 times. It has the .30 magnum 4 stroke. The plane is indeed a handful on the ground and with the combination of size and color it gets small real quick. I don't think I would try hand launching. I am not convinced that I have mine balanced correctly. I am probably not going to fly it again until next Spring and only after I have spent some time re-balancing and checking the wing incidences. The covering quality is average at best and the same could be said about the construction and included hardware. But when you consider how cheaply these sold (about the same price as a foam biplane) they were an excellent value. I do believe a German company that imports to the U.S. still sells these.

I have one I bought off a guy with a Magnum .30 FS. He said it flew around nicely with the .30 but I intend to put a OS .48FS in it this winter and have it ready for next spring.

I heard they are tough to handle on the ground also but never saw one fly. I just thought it was a neat looking plane.

I had a OS 40FS in mine and man does this thing like to ground loop, Hand launch is out of the question. If it does not have enough speed it will tip stall right in. On takeoff throttle up slow and keep on the rudder and let the tail come up on it's own and let it get some speed and give a little up and climb out level. It does fly nice. As far as getting balanced correctly, This is a bit tricky, The CG is 20mm in front of the bottom wing, How I did this is put two strings around the wings and hung it inverted from a dowel with a piece of cardboard sticking off the front of the bottom wing with the mark at 20mm (13/16 in standard measurement) Then I used a plumb bob off the same dowel added lead until the plumb bob pointed to the CG mark on the cardboard. Looks great in the air on a slow fly-by. I miss my little bipe, Still in my avatar.

Dauntae

Thanks for the input guys. I think its a neat looking plane.
I would really like to have a WWI arf, of some kind, but
I haven't found one in a .25 size. Let me know if you
have heard of one.

Thanks again,

Johnny C!

here is the German web site that offers this plane:
http://www.jamara-produkte.de/OSSHOP...roducts_model=

Jamara is the maker of the Sportsman aviation Waco so that is the same plane, Hobby people has stopped selling the 30 size so that might be a good source if someone wants one.

Dauntae

I'm putting together one of these right now. The aileron linkage doesn't seem to work quite right for me. Can someone post a closeup of your aileron linkage? I must be doing something stupid, I just don't see it.

Looked at one in a Hobby Shop yesterday.

Has 2 servos in the wing so no bell cranks. Cool little bird.

Does anyone know what brand/color of covering matches the grey version of this plane? Mine has managed to get some hanger rash, in the form of a dropped screwdriver.

I've been flying mine quite a bit lately. I love this plane. First off, it's a real floater, I was expecting it to come in hot, but it's actually amazing easy to land.

My field has been wet a lot this winter, so I've been catching a lot of puddles on landing, resulting in flipping over. The vertical stab has held up quite well to this so far. Wheels landings or 3-pointers are easy when I avoid the puddles though.

Take off does take a lot of attention on the rudder, but it's really not that bad.

I have the CG back a bit from what the plans list. I think it's just aft of the "rear most" location in the instructions, or around there anyway. I did mount a bunch of lead to a second engine mount that I screwed to the firewall. That gets the lead well mounted, but forward, just behind the dummy engine rather than back on the firewall.

I have an old OS .32F ringed engine, APC 11x4 prop, and Slimline pitts-style muffler. It easily accelerate vertically out of sight. I tried an APC 10x5, and the plane was way too fast for "scale", it looked silly. I'd love to try an 11x3, but I don't think they make one.

Spins are really pretty, espeically with fully-crossed over ailerons. (flat spin controls, but it doesn't flatten out fully, just enough to look nice). Favorate thing to do with it is pull to a vertical climb, chop the throttle and tail slide or hammerhead in to a spin.

Oh, I have "bush" wheels on my plane, 3" foamies. They look funny, but it's winter, the grass isn't mowed, and the frost heaves and potholes in the runway are brutal. I can actually taxi around, but it looks like I'm "4-wheeling" or something. Bouncing all over the place.

For all that, I wouldn't hand launch this plane. I actually fly a lot of plane hand-launch, but I just wouldn't do this one. Partly because the vertical stab and rudder aren't that big, so the plane would tend to pull hard to the left on release. It would be easy to snaproll it in to the ground this way.

It would be perfect for electric power, that's for sure.

Thank you for the jamara info. If anyone might know of any site, etc. that I may be able to obtain plans for this model pls reply to this posting. I have a waco .30 but received without any plans from the seller. Thank you very much in advance. Have a great day folks.

hi...i have a sportsman aviation 30 size waco,is this what you have?and what is the cg and on which wing do you check it from.i got the plane from someone and don't have a manual.i would really appreciate any help....thanks barry ( [email protected])

Yeah, same plane. I don't recall the CG location.

If I recall, the CG is specified in the directions as being a bit in front of the LE of the lower wing, which makes it hard to measure.

Not positive but I think it was 20MM in front of the LE on the lower wing, I hope I remember it right, It's been a while since mine died.

Dauntae

I checked the instructions last night. 20mm forward of the LE of the bottom wing is correct. The instructions say 15mm for acrobatic flying. I think mine is around 12-15mm.

WOW and I set mine up like 3 years ago, My memory surprises me.

Dauntae

Does anyone know if there is a distributor in North America that still sells the Waco 30?

Ross

Not that I'm aware of, but if you find one, please let us know here as well. Mine's still in great shape, but we all know how fast that can change.

There's one on Ebay now - closes in 5 days. Current price is $96 but I suspect it will go MUCH higher. No good to me because they don't ship to Canada. I may end out by building something from plans.

Ross

Its still on with a day left at $113.05 - reserve not met. Someone might get a good deal if the reserve isn't too high.

Ross

I have one for sale...NIB red and white $175 shipped,,,I am in Florida BTW

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Hi, has anyone tried to eletrify one of these yet?