Ran across China Model Products planes at Raiden Tech inc. I really like the Passion from CMP.
Does anyone know how their quality is ? How do they fly? Ya know, the important things ... I can find no reviews ,and the price seems good..but a deal ain't always a deal.. Thanks for any help. MG ps.. anyone know why Raiden Tech would list the Giles 202 (same plane ) twice (different price????

Raidentech is a legit supplier. I've bought 3 planes from them with no problems. I only buy CMP warbirds from them so can't say much about the other plane types. But the CMP line is well known in warbirds forum for quality kits and excellent flyers, not bricks with engines like some other lines. Their planes are really the best bang for the buck. I don't buy goofy planes from GP, H9 anymore after seeing what I can get from CMP. Hope this helps.[:-]

Yeah Thanks... I was curious .. so many companies out there trying to make a buck with cheapie-stuff. I really would like to find their Christen Eagle... I doubt I could get it in the air and NOT kill it, but Man -o-Man!! is she a pretty Bird! Thanks again,kmtranmd, for the advice.. Regards, MG

CMP planes are fine ... they are all ok ... no need to really worry, they are slightly over the ideal weight only and they fly well.

There quality is good they fly well i had the extra 73" a little heavy slow to pull out of a dive or bottom of a loop.
The advertised flying wait of mine was 5.2kg but when built with the supplied hardware no servos, radio or engine it was already 5.1Kg engine fitted and radio finished at 6.4kg

Does anyone know what kind of covering CMP uses Chinacoat, or Ultracote/Oracover?

I have the Passion 60, it's alot of fun but you need alot more motor then advertised.

I have the CMP Spitfire, Corsair and Giles 202 1.40.

All are very well built. The Spit is the only one I have flown as yet, and it flies great - very scale like with a 1.20 4-st.

I'm just putting the Giles together now - superb quality. I'll post some pics when it's finished.

I just ordered the CMP P-51 from Raiden-Tech. Anyone have thoughts on this plane. Exspecting it in Friday. Seems heavy.. but looked pretty nice
Thanks

I have an Extra 300 that I bought from a seller at Ebay for about $135 to my post office box. I may have paid a little much for it but I can't complain. This is my first arf so I am not at all qualified to say much about it. Itlooks great. I am useing a Saito 100 GK mounted inverted and I had to do some surgery to the nose to get the tank lower to keep from flooding the engine. I gave the dowel rods to my blue and gold mcaw because it looked like a major PITA to get it ran out the back.He took care of them in no time. I cut some of the covering on the bottom rear of the fuse to get some ni rods to the elevators and rudder.I guess I can say I am happy so far with this plane but it has yet to fly so we'll see.

Bill

I've just started assembling a CMP Corsair 120. So far the kit looks good. I've ordered a BCMA 26 for it. However, given some of the threads that I've read regarding the delamination of the wing I'm a little scared. I was considering ordering the CJM retracts for it but I think I'll wait and see how it all turns out.

Pilotbum:
I just finished a CPM120Corsair. It seems very strong but I would suggest another method of hooking up the flaps as the cable they supply and the guide tube will flex when pushing the flaps into the up position.
I'm going to install two servos into the wing just aft of the flaps.
I installed the CJ retracts and they work fine. I had to build up the landing gear area to fit the retracts because the flanges are outboard instead of inboard.
I flew it this past Sunday and it flew very well and was very quick with a 1.00 Evolution. Would fly scalelike at about 1/3 throttle.
It weighs 12.25lbs dry with 8 oz up front to balance.
I just ordered a heavy hub to replace some of the lead.
I'm also getting other stars and bars as the one with the ARF IMHO are the wrong blue.

Happy flying


Tom

CMP stuff is fine I have the ZERO with century retracks... I spent a little extra time weathering it but worth the work... Throw out most of their harware... JUNK. I would be more worried about the company you are ordering from... If item is in stock you are fine if not they will take your money and send it when it comes in... I ordered my zero from them they sent me a fake order shipping # after 1 1/2 months of emails and phone calls they finally refunded my money saying sorry not in stock.

Pilotbum:
By the way I had to move my servo location for the rudder and elevator aft (built another servo tray) to allow for the retract valve and servo. The throttle servo was fine at the pre-set position.
Good Luck with yours.


Happy Flying

Tom

Hi Guys,

I just picked up a CMP ~75 " Ws Corsair 90/120 from a felow in a trade. The plane is partially assembled, but there are no instructions or plans with it. Does anyone have the instructions / plans for this bird?

Thanks,

I have the Spit and FW190. The Spit has a 25cc Brillelli gas engine and the FW190 has a Saito150. They both fly well and seem to hold up to extreem misuse. I don't think they are for the first or second time builder since they do need mucho TLC to prepare them for a solid carefree flight. I used SpringAir retract units in both with Robarts struts on the Spit and custom built 8" Robinaires on the FW190.

tIANci said it very well. (quote below)

You buy cheap, you get cheap and it will take considerable work to get CMP's flying properly. Also, you can not use all the Hardware and the Paint chips off easy.

You have to fuel proof the entire aircraft, because CMP doesn't do it... so it seems, and the directions are Vague. ( If you even get the directions) The CG (Center Gravity) wasn't listed, and the manufacture requested CG is way off. The DC ( Dead Center) on the Firewall is way off, so engine mounting will be a little tricky. The Flaps, Ailerons and Elevator measurements are off from each other, and all CMP's take a lot of additional modifications to be structurally sound.

My suggestion is, don't be suckered in because of the price. Save your money and purchase a Hanger 9, Sig, Goldberg and Great Planes. Sure most of there planes cost more, however the quality is much better than CMP... and you don't have to worry too much about any paint chipping off and you can use ALL the hardware. I bought two CMP's and the quality was the same. [sm=thumbs_down.gif]

If you buy a CMP, forget about buying parts... they're non-existant. That's unless you buy another kit of your plane, or find a wrecked CMP on E-Bay etc.

Also, look for any reviews in any of the Magazines or On-line, you will find that they aren't any, however the other companies I mentioned have mostly good reviews.

So if your looking for a plane that looks good, and you want to go to the field in a couple of days and don't want to spend a ton of money on Hardware and paint etc, buy what I suggested.

So I disagree what has been written so far from my own personal experience. Sorry for throwing the Dog Poo in the middle of the Parade, somebody has to explain his question a little better honestly.

Watch it kmtranmd, Sales people do come in to some of these Forums, and if they can sell you there brand, they make money.

Good Luck,


Peter Dowling aka Luftwaffe Oberst
AMA District II # 865404
Aero Modelers Club
Pulaski, NY

China. Compared to Ultra, I don't like it very much. It wrinkles like a Bull Dog out in the sun, however not as bad as the Ultra or Mono.



Peter Dowling aka Luftwaffe Oberst
AMA District II # 865404
Aero Modelers Club
Pulaski, NY

The covering on my Passion 3D has been tight as a drum since the day I got the plane. It has more hours on it then any of my planes.

I've bought about a dozen CMP planes in the last 4 or 5 yrs and they are all fine. You have to understand that they are sport flying planes. These aren't TOC quality planes, and the price reflects that.

I've been through 3 of the little 40 size 3D Giles 202. Great plane for learning 3D. I just bought the blue 50 size Giles 202. It great too!! Awesome covering and a great design on the airframe.

I don't think Sig or Great Planes or Hanger 9 is any better. When your looking at these smaller models in the 40--60 size, the quality of the CMP is just as good as the major brands that are twice the price.

Hardware problems? When was the last time you bought a 40 size ARF that had decent hardware in it? I ALWAYS replace the hardware in these ARFs. Yes, even the Hanger 9 ARFs have junky hardware. Even the Seagull ARFs have junky hardware. And we're gonna pick on CMP because their hardware isn't top notch? For planes that only cost $100--$150, I think I can afford to spend an extra $20 on nice hardware.

I can't wait untill Nitroplanes or AK-Models gets that 50 size Yak 54 back in stock sometime in the next few months. I'm gonna snatch one of them up. And the 50 size Extra 330L that they just released--I'm gettin' one of them too. Man, this little 50 size Giles 202 that I just got--$119.95 shipped to my front door!! How in the heck can ya complain about THAT? And the Yak is $125+ shipping----who would complain about that?

I wouldn't buy a Great Planes ARF again if somebody gave me a free gift certificate. I'd sell the gift certificate for 50 cents on the dollar and go buy myself something nice. [X(] Did I say that out loud? [sm=lol.gif]

CMP is great stuff for sport flying.

Besides what some over-opinionated and often inexperienced bags of wind might lead you to believe, the quality of the CMP products are more then fair for the price. Yes the instructions are a joke but after putting two or three arfs together you should catch the major drift of what it takes to put one together. Some of the more simple minded folks might need to be led step by step down the path of least resistance, but if you have succesfully put together two planes you should have no problem with the instructions. They fly great. If you want to talk about high quality then you need to talk about high-bucks as well.

Hi Tom,

Can you tell where the CG is on the 120 Corsair? I have one that is half built and need some help as I have no instructions.

Thanks

I just ordered the extra 330 50 from Nitroplanes.com. I havn't received it yet but if anyone has this plane please let me know how it flies.

I just got the Quest ... its very nice for the price. Got no complains ... I had the Swallow too, did not fly or build it but the quality was very nice. CMP is ok for sure ...

Hello,
I think CMP Models are like all other ARF's.
Some kits are good and some kits are bad, all of them are very low costs.
I have a 140er P51, which is good to built and flies very good.
Also a 120er Zero, which have a wrong C.G. from manual instruction.
A Macchi 200 Saetta ( airkill 90 ), I think she is also from CMP, with no given C.G. point.