What do you think of Falcon Trading ARF's?
What do you think of the Beaver on floats?
How does the Beaver handle? Is it like a Cub, *****y to take off, *****y to land? Or does it fly more sedately?

Thanks, guys!

The planes fly more sedately.

They are pretty sturdy but if broken bad will be harder to fix.

I reviewed the Beaver for RCU, here's the link:

http://www.rcuniverse.com/magazine/a...article_id=425

It takes off and lands easier than a Cub, but it flies a bit heavier.

I own all of their planes and as far as I'm concerned they are all SUPER. My favorite is the Cessna on floats but they all fly great. Like Minnflier said the Beaver flies a little heavy but it's comfortable and I like the way it settles in for a landing. My Beavers have 46's in them and I'm using 11/5 props.
Today I had my Jupiter at the field and had just put the 11/5 prop on it, wasn't sure at first how I liked it ( the prop )but after 2 flights I really liked it. It does a super tumble and loves inverted flat spins ( so does the Ready ), the nice thing is that you can just fly out of them where on a lot of planes you can't even get out of them. My Ready and Jupiter have well over 100 flights each and I never put them up without doing at least 1 tumble, it's sort of a trade mark with me.
Once you get these planes set up they are a blast to fly and they can fly slow just as well as the next guy or tear up the sky. As stated if you break it, it can be a little harder to fix but Falcon has all the parts in stock and there is a list ( you can down load ) of ways to fix a lot of problems that you MIGHT have right on there web site.
One last point, the plastic planes take a H*** of a beating and just keep going, (sort of like a TIMEX ) . They can almost just be tossed in the car and go. They make great planes for someone that travels.
I guess by now you have figured out that I like them!! And I think you would also. ENJOY !!!!! RED

Thank you guys!
Being a Canadian (designed) plane I couldn't get anyone in the Canadian forums to respond.

I'll get it, it also comes with wheels and I am planning to put a camera on it, being that the constructions is plastic and it will (possibly) protect the camera in a ....aughhhh.... CRASH!

Do you think an O.S. Surpass .72 will fit?

Albert

I'm not sure that a 72 will fit, if it does it will be tight. That plane has a round cowl and the eng mount that comes with it is for a 40/46. I just looked at mine and if it will fit the mount there should be enough room. That's not a positive-- just a guess. I'm sure you will have more power then you will ever need. The 52's do a good job. Good luck. ENJOY !!!! RED

You mentioned a 'Canadian Forum' what is that web site address; I am Canadian living here in the US and would be interested in subcribing to the Canadian Site as well
; Thanks.

The canadian forum is R/C Canada at www.rccanada.ca
I fly at a Montreal Club, www.wimac.org
Feel free to participate in our Club's Web site... it gets pretty lively!

Blue skies, like one of our members says (I am sure you have a lot of those in Texas)

Red Head,

You said the 52's also "do a good job." Have you actually stuck a O.S. 52 in the plane and flown it? I can get either the O.S. 46AX or the O.S. 52 FS. Which would you recommend and why? I won't say my funds are unlimited, but I don't mind spending more for something I will appreciate more.

I only got into the sport in February of this year and didn't start flying until June. I anticipate a lot more flying in 2006 and would like to use this plane for the Club's water fun fly in August.

Thank you,
Trekkerguy

NO !!! I haven't put a 52 in the Beaver, mine both have 46's and I like the OS best. I talked with a fellow that was going to put a 52 in his but never heard how it turned out. If it will fit the mount and go inside the cowl I think it would be Great, if I wasn't so lazy I might try it but mine are both flying good and you know the old saying " if it works -- don't fix it !!! "

On my Cessna with a 4 cyl I went to a 3 bladed prop to give me more clearence from the floats and I think it pulls a little better then a 2 bladed which might be something to try if you go with the 52. In the past I have found that I don't care for 3 bladed props on the smaller engines but the 52 and up are probably fine.

If you decide to try the 52 I would like to know how it worked out, I have an extra one that just might need a new home.
ENJOY !!! RED

Here we go again:: I just took my 52 out to the shop and tried it in a (modelfly) mount and it fit super. I then took a look at how it would fit in the Beaver and as far as I can see it should be an easy and neat mount. You may have to cut a little out of the cowl where the head of the engine comes out, but not much. Mind you all I did was set the engine as close as I could but it looked good.
You will probably want to turn the carb over so the needle comes out the top, by doing that it will also put the throttle arm in a little better position. The carb will end up fitting all the way back on the mount in order to get a good monting.
I only glanced at how the muffler will fit but that also looks like a neat fit with little to do.
With a 52 on the Beaver you may get accused of having an electric Beaver. Mine with the 46 inside that big round cowl is Super quiet and when I idle back you can hardly hear it and that's with a 2 bladed prop, if you went with a 3 bladed it would probably be even quiter.
You also ask why I would go with a certain engine. As I said I have 46"s in both mine but I have 52"s in both of my AEROBAT's and I like the sound and the throttle response of the 52's, it seems smoother and more precise, probably just me but that's my opinion. Don't get me wrong, they all do a great job, I just like 4 strokes.
I hope this helps you and please do let us know what you decide.
By the way, when assembling the plastic planes make sure you rough up any area you will be glueing, I use a hobby knife and SCORE all those areas to make sure I get a good bond. ESPECIALLY on the screw post that go into the float, I score the post and put plenty of glue in the hole as it is going into foam and I want it to spread out inside to make a better bond.

Have fun and ENJOY !!! RED

Here we go again:: I just took my 52 out to the shop and tried it in a (modelfly) mount and it fit super. I then took a look at how it would fit in the Beaver and as far as I can see it should be an easy and neat mount. You may have to cut a little out of the cowl where the head of the engine comes out, but not much. Mind you all I did was set the engine as close as I could but it looked good.
You will probably want to turn the carb over so the needle comes out the top, by doing that it will also put the throttle arm in a little better position. The carb will end up fitting all the way back on the mount in order to get a good monting.
I only glanced at how the muffler will fit but that also looks like a neat fit with little to do.
With a 52 on the Beaver you may get accused of having an electric Beaver. Mine with the 46 inside that big round cowl is Super quiet and when I idle back you can hardly hear it and that's with a 2 bladed prop, if you went with a 3 bladed it would probably be even quiter.
You also ask why I would go with a certain engine. As I said I have 46"s in both mine but I have 52"s in both of my AEROBAT's and I like the sound and the throttle response of the 52's, it seems smoother and more precise, probably just me but that's my opinion. Don't get me wrong, they all do a great job, I just like 4 strokes.
I hope this helps you and please do let us know what you decide.
By the way, when assembling the plastic planes make sure you rough up any area you will be glueing, I use a hobby knife and SCORE all those areas to make sure I get a good bond. ESPECIALLY on the screw post that go into the float, I score the post and put plenty of glue in the hole as it is going into foam and I want it to spread out inside to make a better bond.

Have fun and ENJOY !!! RED

Red Head,

I really appreciate the response. Especially the reminder to score the glue areas to get a better bond.

If I go with the Beaver, from what you said, I will put the O.S. 52 in it. I have (3) O.S. 46AX's and really like them, but am heading toward 4 strokes. I already have two Saito FA-100's for my AT-6 Texan and Showtime.

Of course, you know, one question begets another. I need an assessment. By the time I tackle the Beaver I will have assembled two Nexstars, a Superstar, an Avistar, an AT-6 Texan, and a Showtime. Assuming that I am as sharp, not necessarily sharper, than the average bear, how long do you think it will take to assemble the Beaver?

Thanks much,
Trekkerguy

If I stick with it I think I could put it togeather in about 8 hrs. But I spend a lot of time scoring glue spots and smoothing off the mold joints etc. so you may want to add an hour or so. It also depends on how good you are at putting in your radio gear etc..
By the way here's another hint: When smoothing off the mold joints I scrape them with a hobby knife then use a " Drywall Sanding pad " to smooth it out. I like them better then fine sand paper, they come in different grits. You can get them at most hardwares or Home Depot.
Another hint: I have had real good luck reforming some spots if I need too by using a heat gun. You have to be real carefull about how much heat you use and you will also want to wear gloves if you try it. On my Beavers ( with 46's ) I had to do a little reforming of the cowl to allow a little more air to the carb. JUST BE CAREFULL of your heat.
ENJOY !!! RED