I was looking for some thoughts and openions of flight characteristics for the Hanger 9 (Advance 40) ARF. I am starting it as my second plane and was wandering what i might be in for.

Also I had heard that it could be converted into a tail dragger. Has anyone done this and if so, HOW? I was hoping to change the landing gear and put on so sweet wheel pants.


Thanks for any info.

* Nice plane, my boy has had one for a couple years. I use once in a while when the weather is bad. I did all of the above. Converting to a taildragger is easy. Get around a 1/4 inch piece of plywood and cut it to fit inside the fuselage right where the front of the wing goes in. Do this before you install the fuel tank.
*Epoxy to the bottome but make sure to glass to the sides. Also a minot trick to this is to use Nylon mounting bolts . If you go off into the weeds the bolts will break off. If you use steel and go off into the weeds, the gear and the whole bottom of the fuse will rip right off.
*you can use standar aluminum gear which you see on alot of trainers. Most shops carry it.
* I flew mine with a TT46 pro for a year and it now holds the TT61pro and 11/8 pro. Everything is fine
The tail wheelis easy too. Get thatkind that just mounts to the bottom and there is a piece of wire you bend into the rudder to steer the wheel. I glued a piece of hardwood to the fuse, then screwed on the tailwheel assembly. It is alot easier than it sounds
Nice plane. I put over 200 flights on that thing before i recovered it last year.

The Advanced 40 is a great plane/flier!! This too was my second plane. If you set it up per the manual, it flys very stable. As your skills improve, you can start increasing control thows, and move Cg aft. Then the plane is quit the sport flier. I started with an OS 46FX, then put a Webra 50 on it, WOW that was a blast. The only thing i really did diff than manual, was I epoxyed the tail feathers on along with the nuts & bolts. Overall, I loved the plane, great performer, sturdy, good quality ARF. You will not regret it!!

Enjoy,
EdMan

wow! it's great to see one of those babies are still around, this was my 3 plane and she was so much more than my trainer and spacewalker. I converted mine to a t-dragger and love it with fiberglass landing gear. She was fast to me with a TT-46 in that day and age. I later converted it to cap spec by intalling a larger rudder for knife edge. some people have reported converted to 2 ailerons servos for better response and to have the same roll rate on both the left and right. talk with u soon...

Mine lasted nearly 400 flights before I lost it to a mid-air... it was such a good plane I got another one. It's the perfect second plane! My mods: make sure to seal the aileron hinge gap; you'll never get sufficient roll rate until you do. Epoxy the tail feathers on as mentioned in the previous post; I've seen one lose the tail in flight, not pretty. My first plane used hardwood for the pushrods; the new one used balsa, and the pushrod for the elevator split in flight; elevator response got sluggish, so I landed it and checked it out- good thing! It wouldn't have held together much longer. I fly this plane when it's too windy, the light's not great, etc. I take beginners up on it with a buddy box too. It's a very solid plane and a lot of fun. You'll like it!

Thanks to all. I am glad to hear that everyone seemed to be very happy with it. I am looking forward to getting her airborn!

I was thinking that I should epoxy the tail feathers on but I wasn't sure if I was setting myself up for trouble in the future. Glad to see it has been done.

Thanks,

Keep on keep'n on.

I could not find a Carl Goldberg Tiger 2 ARF so I got and just finished my Advance 40 VRTF and is just about ready to fly. I may be blind but I could not find the measurments for the control throws. Is it not in the manual? What is a good place to start?
Thanks

I assembled my Advance 40 about 4 years ago. NEVER flew it with the trike gear, started out making it tail dragger. I don't know where my instruction manual ended up, but I didn't follow them when setting control throws anyway.

My rudder throw is almost 2 inches each way. Elevator, between 3/4 and 1 inch each way, Ailerons started out about 3/8 inch each way, then got increased. I never measured final aileron throw. I just adjusted them for as much throw as I could get without causing any binding.

I've had a TT Pro .46 on mine all the time. The .46 has (or at least did 2 years ago {last time I had a chance to fly anything}) enough power to make the Advance 40 the first plane I've owned with enough performance to successfully perform a Knife-edge loop.

My ONLY complaing about the Advance was that flying knife-edge with the left wing down, it would NOT maintain altitude. However, with the right wing down, it not only maintained altitude, but was able to perform knife-edge loops.
Never found any reason for the difference. Mine was set up with NO side thrust, and rudder throw equal both ways even while holding on to the rudder to try putting the control linkages under "simulated flight" loads.

I had both and my tail dragger had a YS 63 and was a rocket!
I also to the dihedral out of the wing.

I bought my Advance from my LHS about a month ago. I probably looked at it for another month before that. I have been flying it for about 3 weeks now. I love it!

It is an absolute beauty for manners. Point it where you want it to go, and it goes. I put an OS52fs on it from the start. Balanced 1/8" in front of recommended CG with no lead. No lateral weight needed either. Settled on an APC 12-7 prop. It has good all around authority. I'm still exploring it's capabilities. Great windy flier. Flew today with 20-25 mph gusts. 10-15 sustained at 45 degrees across the runway. No problem. I actually "Harrier-ed" it today! That was cool! The only gripes I have are the main gear are close enough to the CG that it teeter-totters on 'em while taxi'ing. I can pop wheelies with it at will! The other gripe is that this particular one has the aileron servo hole too far to the outside preventing me from putting on servo arms. I have been using the little disc with the horn pivots all the way down. And yes, the roll rate is reeel slow.

Rehab for next weekend. Correct servo hole by cutting towards the center and epoxy'ing a thin lite ply reinforcing plate to the wing. The original plate is inside the wing. I'll be putting the new one on the outside. Anyone see any problems with that? I'll also be changing to an OS 46fx with a Mac's pipe (off the trainer I sold). I have other plans for the fs. I'll also be converting to a taildragger using a Sullivan tailwheel and Klett 'glass main gear. I will also be installing a pilot,,, finally, because it is definately a keeper.

Does anyone see any holes, bear traps, or quicksand pools in my plan? Sing out if you do! I'm still new at this stuff!

If anyone can find one of these, it is worthy addition.

Someone else type for a while now....