I am looking for a large monoplane aerobatic ARF with good precision aerobatic flying and decent 3D capability.

I won't be competing in IMAC but want to practice my flying to become better at precision aerobatics and maybe some 3D.

It must be powered by a glow engine (don't want the hassle of converting to gas at this time) and have unlimited vertical, preferably with a 2-piece wing no smaller than 70" span. I would prefer an Extra but would look at an Edge too.

I still haven't decided which plane/engine combo to buy. But right now my preference in this order is:

1. World Models Extra 300S 80" with OS 1.60FX, Bisson Pitts Muffler and Perry Pump

2. Yellow Aircraft 120 Size Extra 300L with Saito 1.80

3. Yellow Aircraft 120 Size Extra 300L with OS 1.60FX, Bisson Pitts Muffler and Perry Pump

4. Hangar 9 Edge 540 with Saito 1.80

5. Hangar 9 Edge 540 with OS 1.60FX, Bisson Pitts Muffler and Perry Pump

I have read nearly every thread on RCU about these types of planes and haven't found a definitive answer as to which one will give me what I am after.

Which one of the combinations listed above will give me what I want?

a. Glow Engine
b. Unlimited Vertical
c. 2-Piece wing
d. Excellent precision aerobatics
e. Good 3D capability
f. Larger than 70" span.
g. Must be an ARF.

Obviously a, f and g are OK for all of the combinations listed, but how about the other criteria?

Why dont you consider the GP patty wagstaff with a Moki 2.1

Sorry I should have also included in the above post that I run Powermaster YS 20/20 fuel and want to continue to use it. So therefore I don't want a Moki engine as they need to be run on FAI or very low nitro fuels.

So this rules out the GP Extra and the Dave Patrick Extra and Edge too!

1. Sig Cap 231EX with Saito 180
2. Lanier Edge 540 with Moki 180
3. Hangar 9 Cap 232 with OS 160fx
4. Lanier 300 with Saito 180
5. Great Planes Giles 202 with Moki 2.10 (a friend has this one, a real bad beast, all most too much power!?...)

One I have not seen is the Katana from Creek Hobbies, looks real nice, probably my next 1/4 scale with Moki 180

Pretty much any combo, keep surfin the universe, you'll find somethin' ya like.....

chris

From your initial list, I would recommend the following:

3. Yellow Aircraft 120 Size Extra 300L with OS 1.60FX, Bisson Pitts Muffler and Perry Pump
5. Hangar 9 Edge 540 with OS 1.60FX, Bisson Pitts Muffler and Perry Pump

These two choices will give you the best combination of results.

The H-9 EDGE is a 1 piece wing! It is a nice flyer though. Creek Hobbies puts out a nice Extra but again it's a 1 piece wing.
Stick with the 4 strokes! If you use the Saito 180 or YS-140 you can fly up to 14# and still have decent 3D capability.
Try an Aeroworks 29% Edge ARF. Pricey but light. I'm working on a 31% and may have it under 16# (92" span!).

The 2 piece wing is the kicker! Yellows are 1 piece, SIG's are 1 piece. Look at Bubba Spivey's line "Lanier".

I have crossed off entry number 1 and the Saito 1.80 option and am looking closely at 3 and 5 as listed above.

I could probably live with the 1-piece wing, so which one would get the nod between these two?

Lanier ARFs (old and new) are poorly built junk and Bubba could care less about your problems with his planes. Lanier customer service is non existent. Their motto is "we're not responsible for anything we're actually responsible for". Their built up kits are a better bet but they need to watch the wood quality and grade more.

He didn't have Lanier as one of his options.

No it wasn't on my list, but somebody suggested it above. BTW it wasn't on my list for a reason!

Maverick, check out the "down on the deck" web page, they built a 12 pound Super Kraft Cap 232-120 and did a flight review thats worth reading.

Yeah, I have seen it. I am looking for an Extra or maybe an Edge though.