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Old 06-24-2007, 10:05 AM
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Default The ultimate low wing stick by Cedar Hobbies

The ultimate low wing stick by Cedar Hobbies
http://www.cedarhobbies.net/index.ph...sc&product=37#

I just started building a verily neat low wing stick Made by Cedar Hobbies. They call it the Low Wing Stick 96.
It is one the biggest planes like this on the market. It makes the Sig 4 star 06 and 120 look like a Childs toy. This plane has a 96” wing span and a 21 “ cord on the main wings and the Fuse is over 70” long. But the really trick of this is plane is that the main wing is a two piece design with tubes; the fuse is also a two piece design. Even the tail can be made to be removable. Now you can fly a true ¼ scale plane and drive to to the field in you little hatch back and leave the truck or van at home.

I am going to build this plane as a fun fly gasser as per Cedar’s recommendations.

Here is a few shots from the manual.

regards

Steve
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Old 06-26-2007, 08:16 PM
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The first thing I did when I got this model was to look and fix any loose glue joints and supports. Like with any ARF these days I did find a few places in the forward section of the Fuse but they were minor. I do recommend reinforcing the firewall and the main gear block with 2 hour epoxy.
The manual shows detailed photos of the critical areas to support and glue.
After the glue was setup It was time to seal the firewall and epoxy it to help rein force it and to seal it from gas and or glow fuel. For a plane this big gas just makes the best solution.
1.I used balsawood to seal the center hole of the firewall and reinforce it as shown in the photo using triangular stock.

2. 2 hour epoxy should be used to seal and further harden the firewall. A few drops of lacer based paint mixed with the epoxy can be used to color the area to your liking.
3. Then I centered the firewall after it had had time to completely dry.
4. I use this center point to lineup and center the engine mounting plate to the firewall.
5. I marked and drilled the holes for the mounting hardware and fit the spacers and vibration dampeners. (as recommended by engine manufacture.)
6. I mounted the engine as shown taking care not to over tighten the mounting hardware. Here are how things looked step by step.

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Old 06-26-2007, 11:52 PM
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Default RE: The ultimate low wing stick by Cedar Hobbies

cool looking plane, let us know how it flies.
Old 06-27-2007, 02:12 AM
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Default RE: The ultimate low wing stick by Cedar Hobbies

put together their other stick last winter and flew it in early spring. very very bad aileron flutter. it went in. nice looking plane, but junk. good luck with yours
Old 06-27-2007, 02:20 PM
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Default RE: The ultimate low wing stick by Cedar Hobbies

russm,
ok…
Well did you use a metal gear servo like an HS 70 MG on each aileron?
Also did you use 4-40 hardware on the controls?
And last but not least did you practice a little throttle management? I have had pylon racers that were built very well blow in 10,000 pieces when I was making a maneuver to fast at to high a speed, alla Don jett 60….
Look no pun intended but did you build it correctly?
I have been building rc aircraft for over 28 years now and 99% of the time a plane has problems flying it is do to it not being setup or assembled correctly.
Here is were the old saying comes in “build it cheap build it over”
Regards

Steve
Old 07-19-2007, 01:41 PM
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Default RE: The ultimate low wing stick by Cedar Hobbies

Sorry about the long hiatuses form this project .
Here is an update.
Completed the tail section of the plane and setup the servos for the controls.
All went well. I do need to say something here that I found with horizontal stabilizer.
Like every ARF that has ever rolled off the assembly line things need to be taking at face value so to speak as you change this form the basic setup. As I have opted to use a good size gas engine on this plane I took the liberty of sheeting the under side of the horizontal stab with 1/16” hard ply. And have chosen to epoxy the stab to the fuse instead of using the removable tail setup. The only issue I found in doing this is that I had to shim the front of the vertical stab to compensate for the 1/16” change in height of the assembly. I now feel pretty good about the extra stress of the engine vibration not being a big deal.
I have also built a cotpit for my old ratfink from back in the day. He makes a good fit for this retro looking bird espalier with the big honking 26 cc sitting off the nose end of the plane. Making the cotpit is easy.
1. Cut out the opening lust under the wind screen with an exacto knife taking care to leave about 3/8” of extra covering all around the edge of the opening.
2. Use a sealing Iron to lock down the covering of the opening.
3. Using a section of 3/16” vacuum line split down the middle with the exacto to make the outer lip of the cotpit.
4. Form a set for your pilot out of scrap wood and check the fit and height you want him to sit at before you glue the wood in place.
5. Finish up your cotpit by using a section of black no back carpet to line the area.
Velcro you pilot in the seat and you’re done.

Here are some photos to go by.
I will update progress soon.

Steve
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Old 07-20-2007, 04:10 PM
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I am afraid that I must agree with steve_molmer a guy at our field and I got to try it with an MDS 148 and was a blast...Don't tell the guys down at the twins forums though...so this is what it is like to relax and not worry about an outer engine failure...Boring...Full aerobatic, but if you are going to OVER POWER IT and dive , with 4" ailerons, you might consider two or more aileron servos like the gas planes of similar size..Did an ultra sport twin engine and the ailerons fluttered in a dive..Hey.. two ST 90's are the same as one 1.8 cubic inch engine aren't they...96" wonder how many engines I can get on this thing??
Ok Ok,,,I need a nap.
Does not need flaps, you can walk beside it at landing.
Have fun...*(Single engines...boring) Ha Ha
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Old 02-15-2008, 10:15 PM
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Just finished building this plane today. Can't wait to fly it. It's my first big gasser. Thought i'd share a picture.
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Old 02-20-2008, 09:40 AM
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What material are the "blue" pushrods???
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Maidened it Saturday! It flew perfect. I love using the flaps. Second flight i had one wheel fall off, so i put flaps down and came in for a perfect slow landing. I didn't even kill the engine.
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Old 11-09-2008, 10:59 PM
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Hi everybody,

Can anybody tell me what the CG range is on this plane. I just bought one from a friend who did not have the manual. Also, if anybody has any recommendations for this plane, let me know (such as which servoes to use, ect). Thanks.

Happy flying!
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I'll have to check on the cg tommorrow. I think i still have the instructions in the garage. I don't fly it anmore. I robbed all the servos and the engine off of it to put on my 27% Extra 330. I have a Homelite weedwacker engine that i'm thinking about putting on it. I was using Hitec 625 and 635 for the servos. I did have one of the servo mounts, on the flaps, come unglued. So make sure u go over everything with epoxy. Luckily i was able to still bring it in without crashing.
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Hi Druff1,

Thanks for your quick reply. I plan on putting an OS 160FX on it. I am thinking about removing the covering and going over it with a fine tooth comb. I got the plane for $50 and therefore I think that I can afford 5 or 6 rolls of ultracote for additional peace of mind. The plane currently has CA hinges. I am thinking about replacing them with Robart hinges. The only unfortunate thing is that I have to probably buy some high torque servos (all I have are Futaba 3004s and JR 537s). At least I can use one of them for throttle control (and maybe for the flaps - ~60oz torque at 6v each).

Happy flying!
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The plane flies slow, almolst like a trianer. You almost don't even need flaps.
Old 11-10-2008, 05:22 PM
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Here is another page about this plane.

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_61...tm.htm#6131493

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