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Old 07-19-2007 | 01:05 PM
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First off,,Hello all.

I am kinda new to the rc world,and I'm loving it. I started with a parkzone super cub which after my 3rd flight I wanted something more. I bought a hobbico Superstar MKII with an OS .40. Im now after 15 or so flights flying this thing inverted and doing hammerheads and such. Needless to say I want more. I aquired a really ugly -Stick with an OS .61SF. My question is, Whats a good plane to put this engine on that will give me some trick ability and not be under powered.

I looking into buying either a Showtime 50 or a Funtana X 50. Im really not sure but I want my plane to have plenty of power with this engine. Thx in advance.
Old 07-19-2007 | 02:47 PM
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Funtana's are great 3D planes.

A .60 with a low pitch prop will be about right.

The Funtana's have BIG control surfaces so they are prone to flutter if you overspeed the plane in flight.

Better to fly slowly with a Funtana but have a lot of thrust available to you for nose up 3D.

Old 07-19-2007 | 02:54 PM
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Thx alot opjose. Im still in the thinking stage as to what to get. I like the look of the funtana but saw in some reviews that where the gear screws in is weak and can break if you land a bit hard. As for me Im not to worried about that as my lands are really good,its the take off that scares me,lol.
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I replaced my metal gear screws with nylon ones on my Funtana 90 on purpose.

I was tired of having to redo the gear blocks after each of my dead sticks, as I was having periennial problems with the Evolution 1.00NX I used... I grew to HATE this engine!

The nylon screws PERMITS the gear to rip out. This is good for hard landings!

Now the gear rips out, but doesn't damage anything except the point where the wheel pants contact the wings...

This means that all I have to do is replace the wing screws and recover the bottom of the wings after a hard landing.

The collapse of the gear saves the airframe.

On takeoff the Funtana's track VERY well.

The long tails make them easy to run down the runway straight as an arrow.

Takeoffs are not problematic at all.... really deadsticks are not either, if you are not way too far out from the field.

The Funtana's float in nicely for landings.

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Sounds like you are making real progress. Congratulations and welcome to this great hobby. Couple basic things about our planes. Wings. These are where most (much more to it, but keeping it simple here) of your performance characteristics will stem from.

Flat bottom and a lot of dihedral - very forgiving, and makes even a smaller rudder more effective.

Semi - symmetrical with a lot of dihedral - more aerobatic, retains some built it stability, still good rudder response with smaller surfaces

Symmetrical with little dihedral - goes where you point it, not forgiving, very aerobatic, comfortable in all attitudes

Now many other factors play into a planes characteristics like the size of the wing in relation to the all up weight (wing loading), power to weight ratio, balance, size of control surfaces, and much much more, but basically, the wing airfoil will set the planes aerobatic limitations. When in the early stages of learning to fly, these inherent limitations can be a protection.

With each of these progressions, the pilot must be mentally farther ahead of the plane to keep it under control, even at slower speeds. Therefore, more accumulated stick time is helpful with each progressive type. It would be wise to consider this and select planes that inherently will help you not fly beyond what you are mentally capable of keeping up with. Planes capable of extreme aerobatics (3D) are easy to get behind mentally. Dangerous to your plane, you, and spectators.

Wishing you continued progress and a great summer of flying.
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Yeah like he said.

A far better choice would be a .60 sized Big ( or Ugly ) Stick IMHO.

These are a blast to fly, but can be really docile when you want them to be.

They are also fantastic planes to take out when the wind is too high, and you THINK that you will not be able to fly.

When I see the winds at over 20mph+ my Big Stick .60 goes with me to the field.

I end up "soaring" with it, trying to see how long I can keep it up on a single tank of fuel ( I'm up to 33 minutes! ).

Old 07-19-2007 | 05:51 PM
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Thanks for all the help so far. This is a hobby Im loving alot. [opjose]- I have an ugly stick now 60 size,thats what the os .61 SF is on,but its old and oil soaked and lands like a manhole cover. Im looking to put this .61 on another plane,maybe even a hangar 9 Spitfire. I hear they are nice.
Old 07-19-2007 | 06:15 PM
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Don't do that to the Spit!

I just got one too from a friend who sold it to me with a .61 engine.

Once I saw the Spit, I immediately ordered a Saito 100 which will fit it perfectly and give it a better sound. I even e-mailed a place to see if they have custom headers for the H9 Spit so the exhaust will exit via the cowl like the real thing...

You don't want the Spit to fly by sounding like a 2 stroker.

Since you've already moved past Stiks the Funtana may be right for you.

It's a docile flyer when you want to land but a lot of fun otherwise.

Just don't deck it out to be a speed demon. Keep the prop pitch in the lower range, to prevent overspeeding, but giving you PLENTY of power to pull out of the 3D maneouvers.


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