Hanger 9 Fairchild PT 19 Experience ?
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From: Woodland Hills ,
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Looking for some feed back on the Hanger 9 PT 19. I read some reviews in Rc report, MAN and RCM.
It looks like a good plane. Tuff to transport though.
Thanks,
Gary
It looks like a good plane. Tuff to transport though.
Thanks,
Gary
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From: Pine Bluff, AR,
I've had one for about a year and a half now. G23 up front. Flies very scale and very stable.
The covering job and quality of overall workmanship is excellent.
The instructions were well written and easy to follow.The only problem I had with mine was with the landing gear blocks breaking. No big deal to fix.
The covering job and quality of overall workmanship is excellent.
The instructions were well written and easy to follow.The only problem I had with mine was with the landing gear blocks breaking. No big deal to fix.
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From: marysville ,OH
i test flew one and it was sweet. g23 had it maybe slightly underpowered for some but enough for what most are gona do with a plane of this type. atleast i dont think people are gona be trying to do torque rolls with it -haha. very smooth flying bird but if you want aerobatics try something else. it could do loops and stall turns and such but its a relaxing plane. Only construction note that i know of is if you put lighter wheels on it you could shave a pound off of it i bet.
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From: St. Ignace, MI
I have had mine for a year and a half also. G-23 for power.
You will have a hard time finding a nicer flying plane. I also
had trouble with the landing gear blocks, and had to open up
the bottom of the wing to beef it up. Also no big deal. It will
do loops, stall turns, inverted flight, rolls,(with rudder), spins,
inverted loops, I don't think of it as being under powered with
a G-23. But I did have to add weight to the tail, to get it to
balance. I have seen it fly with a Saito 120 4 cycle, this engine
also does a fine job.
You will have a hard time finding a nicer flying plane. I also
had trouble with the landing gear blocks, and had to open up
the bottom of the wing to beef it up. Also no big deal. It will
do loops, stall turns, inverted flight, rolls,(with rudder), spins,
inverted loops, I don't think of it as being under powered with
a G-23. But I did have to add weight to the tail, to get it to
balance. I have seen it fly with a Saito 120 4 cycle, this engine
also does a fine job.
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From: marysville ,OH
a note on transport my friend made a fake wing center section thing so he could put an old landing gear on it for holding the fuse while in transport. it will do the stuff mentioned above just not with pazzaz. if its your first bigger model and you plan on -like- aerobatics get something else is all. if you want it as a warbird its good.
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I've had mine for about a year and it is a very low keyed type warbird...I take it with me to warbird flyins to relax! After 2 years flying my big Corsair I'm still a little nervous when flying with 3 or 4 other planes in the sky! So the PT19 fills the bill to fly to work off the shakes after a "heavy metal" flight! Mine has a RCS 140 (RCShowcase) in it which has a lot of power and has the benefit of being almost 2lbs lighter than the G23, plus with it's electronic ignition it hand starts very easy! I also had to open up the wing and beefup the landing gear blocks...oh yeah also have Robarts Robo-Struts on it which really dresses it up!
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I've had one for almost a year and it's a very good airplane. It doesn't take too long to put together and the finished model looks very, very nice. It isn't a perfect ARF as their were a few things I didn't like, but those didn't likes are nit picking. I also put the Robart struts on and replaced the wheels that were in the kit box. The supplied wheels make great paperweights.
I used a Saito 150 mounted inverted and in-flight is more than ample power. I have to use an on-board glow driver to keep it running at idle. I just purchased a fuel regulator to see if that will eliminate the use of the on-board glow.
The PT19 looks just great and flies so nice. As mentioned above, aerobatics are limited but this is one that should be flown like the real one. Takeoffs and landings are excellent. This plane always draws attention at my field when I bring it out.
Would I buy another? Yup! With Great Planes having one the same size available now I would have to look at that one as a strong possibilty too.
I used a Saito 150 mounted inverted and in-flight is more than ample power. I have to use an on-board glow driver to keep it running at idle. I just purchased a fuel regulator to see if that will eliminate the use of the on-board glow.
The PT19 looks just great and flies so nice. As mentioned above, aerobatics are limited but this is one that should be flown like the real one. Takeoffs and landings are excellent. This plane always draws attention at my field when I bring it out.
Would I buy another? Yup! With Great Planes having one the same size available now I would have to look at that one as a strong possibilty too.
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One more thing...I haven't spun mine yet as I had a friend that wanted me to fly his (actually I test fly all his planes) PT-19 after I expressed interest in getting one myself, I had flown it one flight and said "cool" have to get me one...well, he convinced me to fly it again and I couldn't resist on trying a little bit of basic aerobatics. Make a long story short...my first PT-19 was replacing his after I could not get it out of a standard all-purpose spin! I will said it was a pretty 17 or 18 turn spin right down to the ground! I started flying full scale aerobatics about 25 years ago and I did everything but throw the transmitter across the field to get it to come out of that spin! Now I'm chicken to try to spin mine even though I know how mine is balanced and I'm sure it will come out just fine!
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I have had one of the planes for abnout 8 months. It is the one I have the most fun with. Go with a Saito 1.20, Mine flies awesome with this setup. I would also recommend the Robart struts. I modified the landing gear by moving it forward about 10 degrees, I have yet to have see it nose over. This is a must if you fly off of tall grass.
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From: marysville ,OH
a note on cosmetics if you look at the numbers on the sides of the two different models that have pictures here. the one just above has light-nonmatching in color numbers. This was very big dissapointment that my freind had. I guess they appear to match before you apply them so you may want to get you own numbers. look at the pics posted you will see.
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Hi how would this http://www.gcbmrc.com/25cc_engines.htm engine work on the hagder 9, pt-19
might be a good first giant scale plane. this engine seems a little more powerful than the g-23. Read the reveiw. This engine is 199.99 ready to run alot cheaper too.
might be a good first giant scale plane. this engine seems a little more powerful than the g-23. Read the reveiw. This engine is 199.99 ready to run alot cheaper too.
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Thanks for the photos, Robotech and Schmacka.
The PT 19 would be my a start into giant scale aircraft, from the post this seems like a good aircraft. I enjoy flying scale maneuvers that the original aircraft was intended. I was a little concerned about the wing loading. But from the posts this shouldn't be a concern.
Thanks for all the post
Gary
The PT 19 would be my a start into giant scale aircraft, from the post this seems like a good aircraft. I enjoy flying scale maneuvers that the original aircraft was intended. I was a little concerned about the wing loading. But from the posts this shouldn't be a concern.
Thanks for all the post
Gary
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I have been flying one for about 2 years now. One thing I think you should be aware of, is that if you get it too slow on landing, it will abruptly stall and drop a wing. I suggest that upon your first test flight, that you get it up high, and stall test it to see what happens. You might be suprised.
I first flew the plane with only a Super Tiger .90. It flew Ok but was lacking on power. I later switched to a G-23 and was much more pleased with the performance.
Another weak point with this plane is the landing gear mounts. I currently have the RoboStruts installed and they help, but if I had it to do over again, I would have gone into the wing and did some reinforcing.
Overall it is a nice plane, and with some minor modifications, it makes a great first giant scale.
I first flew the plane with only a Super Tiger .90. It flew Ok but was lacking on power. I later switched to a G-23 and was much more pleased with the performance.
Another weak point with this plane is the landing gear mounts. I currently have the RoboStruts installed and they help, but if I had it to do over again, I would have gone into the wing and did some reinforcing.
Overall it is a nice plane, and with some minor modifications, it makes a great first giant scale.
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Just one more comment on the Robart struts. I felt that as they are shipped from Robart the internal spring is way too rigid. It doesn't give the shock absorption a strut like this is supposed to. I went to an auto parts store and purchased a same-size-but-softer-spring which did help some. I even ended up cutting that replacement spring and stretching it some to soften it some more. It works pretty well now and does take some of the landing shock out of the wing.
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I too changed the springs. If you move the gear forward Main wheel landings are alot smoother. Be careful with too soft of a spring because if you are bottoming out alot, it will defeat the purpose of the strut.
I fly off of a rough grass field as well as pavement. soooo smooth off of the pavement.
Man I love this plane.
Good Luck with yours.
I fly off of a rough grass field as well as pavement. soooo smooth off of the pavement.
Man I love this plane.
Good Luck with yours.
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From: Pine Bluff, AR,
Originally I had the #47 that came with the plane but later changed them to #34. I had my sticker guy cut some vinyl stickers that are much bolder and brighter. He also cut a silohette of a dancing woman that I put just under the front pilot along with my wife's nickname.(see picture above.)
Tip: If you put your wife's name on 'em she won't mind them as much and you can get more of them.
I used the #34 because our city was a major pilot training center during WWII and that was the field #. Lots of PT19's flying around all day and night.
I also replaced the original whells with 4.5" Dubros and lost a bunch of weight. I bet those Robart struts are sweet, the stock gear are a little spindley looking.
Tip: If you put your wife's name on 'em she won't mind them as much and you can get more of them.
I used the #34 because our city was a major pilot training center during WWII and that was the field #. Lots of PT19's flying around all day and night.
I also replaced the original whells with 4.5" Dubros and lost a bunch of weight. I bet those Robart struts are sweet, the stock gear are a little spindley looking.
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Originally posted by glalderman
One more thing...I haven't spun mine yet as I had a friend that wanted me to fly his (actually I test fly all his planes) PT-19 after I expressed interest in getting one myself, I had flown it one flight and said "cool" have to get me one...well, he convinced me to fly it again and I couldn't resist on trying a little bit of basic aerobatics. Make a long story short...my first PT-19 was replacing his after I could not get it out of a standard all-purpose spin! I will said it was a pretty 17 or 18 turn spin right down to the ground! I started flying full scale aerobatics about 25 years ago and I did everything but throw the transmitter across the field to get it to come out of that spin! Now I'm chicken to try to spin mine even though I know how mine is balanced and I'm sure it will come out just fine!
One more thing...I haven't spun mine yet as I had a friend that wanted me to fly his (actually I test fly all his planes) PT-19 after I expressed interest in getting one myself, I had flown it one flight and said "cool" have to get me one...well, he convinced me to fly it again and I couldn't resist on trying a little bit of basic aerobatics. Make a long story short...my first PT-19 was replacing his after I could not get it out of a standard all-purpose spin! I will said it was a pretty 17 or 18 turn spin right down to the ground! I started flying full scale aerobatics about 25 years ago and I did everything but throw the transmitter across the field to get it to come out of that spin! Now I'm chicken to try to spin mine even though I know how mine is balanced and I'm sure it will come out just fine!
I too lost mine during a spin on my 10th flight. No matter what I did, it just wouldn't come out of it. I loved the short time I had with it, and will probably by another in the future. I'll take the blame, and go higher next time.
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CG,4 13/16" from the leading edge of the wing,
measured at the fuselage.
Aileron low rate 3/8" high rate 5/8" meassured furthest inboard
elevator low rate 5/8" high rate 1" meassured furthest inboard
rudder low rate 1" high rate 2 1/8" meassured at the bottom of the rudder.
All took form the instruction manual. Good Luck
measured at the fuselage.
Aileron low rate 3/8" high rate 5/8" meassured furthest inboard
elevator low rate 5/8" high rate 1" meassured furthest inboard
rudder low rate 1" high rate 2 1/8" meassured at the bottom of the rudder.
All took form the instruction manual. Good Luck

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Hi-
I have been flying my H9 PT-19 - or rather PT-23 - for a year now as my favorite Sunday plane. Since I had a jobless Saito 170R lying around I decided to kitbash the PT-19 into the radial engined version PT-23. Fast and brutal job with a saw and mounting of a new aluminium firewall plate - et voila! The heavier than normal engine is compensated by the much shorter nose, so no extra weight was needed for a perfect balance. APC 16x8 prop and the model performs big loops and rolls in a very well-behaved way. OK, I admit the conversion is very stand off scale, but the big bonus to me is the delightful sound of the Saito just cruising around..
I have been flying my H9 PT-19 - or rather PT-23 - for a year now as my favorite Sunday plane. Since I had a jobless Saito 170R lying around I decided to kitbash the PT-19 into the radial engined version PT-23. Fast and brutal job with a saw and mounting of a new aluminium firewall plate - et voila! The heavier than normal engine is compensated by the much shorter nose, so no extra weight was needed for a perfect balance. APC 16x8 prop and the model performs big loops and rolls in a very well-behaved way. OK, I admit the conversion is very stand off scale, but the big bonus to me is the delightful sound of the Saito just cruising around..
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My G-23 powered H9 PT-19 sits in the Hangar most of the time because I am sick of repairing the landing gear after I baloon a landing. Every time I do this (maybe once every ten landings), I get a tip stall and the gear breaks off somewhere. It has been put back together for the 6th time now, using carbon fiber re-inforcement no less, and I am letting it sit. If I ever get a decent offer for it, it will be gone.[:@] I agree with the above comments about the Robart gear....get softer springs somewhere. The stock ones are nutzo stiff.[&o]
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My G-23 powered H9 PT-19 sits in the Hangar most of the time because I am sick of repairing the landing gear after I baloon a landing. Every time I do this (maybe once every ten landings), I get a tip stall and the gear breaks off somewhere. It has been put back together for the 6th time now, using carbon fiber re-inforcement no less, and I am letting it sit. If I ever get a decent offer for it, it will be gone.[:@] I agree with the above comments about the Robart gear....get softer springs somewhere. The stock ones are nutzo stiff.[&o]
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From: doncastersouth yorkshire, UNITED KINGDOM
WEll i took my pt19 up for first time and had trouble ,as i had over prop it, and reduced size of prop will see how she flies when the day is better and not gale force winds,
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Wow! Great info here! I too have a H-9 PT-19 that has not been flown yet.
I was wondering about that CG of 4 13/16 in the instruction man. Seems to be right so I will balance this plane with that CG. It has a G-23 that has never been cranked yet, I will post a pic later. I took the info on the landing gear and may have to open up the wing and fix it too-may go ahead and put the Robart strutts on it anyway.
Thanks! SRCP
I was wondering about that CG of 4 13/16 in the instruction man. Seems to be right so I will balance this plane with that CG. It has a G-23 that has never been cranked yet, I will post a pic later. I took the info on the landing gear and may have to open up the wing and fix it too-may go ahead and put the Robart strutts on it anyway.
Thanks! SRCP


