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Old 04-16-2003 | 01:51 PM
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Morning,

I know there must be some other people who are interested in purchasing one of the new 77" Mustang ARFs from Hanger 9 when they come out. I was wondering what you all are thinking of using for an engine. I am thinking along the lines of a small gasser like the RCS 1.4 or something.

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Old 04-16-2003 | 02:26 PM
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As for me and my house we will serve up the venerable Saito 150.

That happends to be the engine the airframe was designed around.
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RCS? Hmmm, That is interesting. I got one coming soon. What is the final weight of that plane supposed to be? It might not sound as nice as the saito but it will stay nice and clean and not get soaked with fuel and be cheap as dirt to fly. The smaller one flys like a sport on a 60 size engine so maybe the 140 is enough for the 77".

Cool idea!

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The RCS might be underpowering this model. It may benifit from a 40cc size light gas engine like the FPE 2.4 or the up coming BME 55. The smaller P51 looks good for the 140 IMO, .
Here is the new one, http://horizon.hobbyshopnow.com/prod...p?prod=HAN2400

HTH

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I saw an ad for this plane in one of the magazines, Hangar nine is recommending the Saito 180 or the Saito 200 in-line twin.
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If money isn't a problem, I'll bet that in-line saito twin would be great!
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I don't know if you would gain too much of a power difference over the 180, but man o man the sound of those twin cylinders... WOO HOO!
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I just looked up the specs on the Twin 200 on horizon's site, they don't list the power. I have a feeling you might be better off with a 180, definatley on the price side, $350 cheaper, and maybe on the power side. But if you have the extra $350 to blow, it would be pretty freaking cool to have that big twin in a Mustang. I bet that is why Hanger-9 put out the 150 Mustang, to promote the sale of the 200 twin.
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Originally posted by PigMan Buggerus
I just looked up the specs on the Twin 200 on horizon's site, they don't list the power. I have a feeling you might be better off with a 180, definatley on the price side, $350 cheaper, and maybe on the power side. But if you have the extra $350 to blow, it would be pretty freaking cool to have that big twin in a Mustang. I bet that is why Hanger-9 put out the 150 Mustang, to promote the sale of the 200 twin.
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how about a moki 1.35 or a irvine 1.5 or maybe even a 1.60fx (just looking at the 2 stroke option.
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It's a warbird though. Isn't there a regulation somewhere that says a 4-stroke is mandatory???
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p51...fast proper 2 stroke.....fast. the faster the better slow mustangs suck dirt !!!!
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Joe,

Thanks for the link. I had been looking for a listing at Horizon, but it wasn't there yet last time I looked.

This is a nice looking airplane, and I'm sure the construction is good, but I am not sure this airplane is better then the World Models P-51.

The World Models is IMAA legal (not sure if I would ever go to a meet anyway but I could), it has a two-piece wing, it comes with a spinner, the stabs are detachable, and it reportedly flies nice on something like a ZDZ 40. But I don't know much about World Models reputation and

The Hanger 9 comes with thier reputation of building nice flying ARFs and it is covered in UltraKote. But, it's probably a little too small for a 40cc gas engine, doesn't have a spinner, and as far as I can tell from the website, the wing is one peice--same with the stab.

I think it's going to be a tough chioce...

Thanks for your inputs,
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Anyone hear anything about the retracts? That seems to be what most people complain about the smaller one. I hope they are using a good retract system in the 150 size.
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The retracts are mechanical and I saw on the website you need two retract servos.

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Allan,

I think you nailed that one pretty good. The twin will conceal inside the 'stang and should fly it well.

I remember reading a while back that the 200TI doesn't quite have the power of the 180 due to added friction, but then the 'stang doesn't need to hover.

Sure would sound sweet on a low pass!
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When I finally get to the point that I am reaqdy for a big warbird, I think I am going to have to go with tht combo. Quite a bit of cash but oh would it be cool.
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How about the RCS 180. Gas , power , small size?
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i would think that the moki 2.1 would be a good choice here for a glow engine. uses relatively cheap fuel 5% and has a good reputation- does take some break in. sort of like a big st90.

for gas i would get the zdz40. after all this is a fighter right? sure don't want a fighter that flies too slow!!

wonder if jett makes big 2 strokes?

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For those of you thinking about a gas engine,, the Zenoah g-26 is a great engine for this plane,, heres pics of my installation,,,, The engines really not broken in yet and it still hauls ass. The weight is almost perfect, I actually had to add a few ounces to the nose to make it slightly nose heavy.
I'm using the BH Hanson G-26 converted to electronic ignition, Hand starting is a breeze..... Awesome sound with the pitts muffler.
see the pics here www.rcsmp.com/mustang.htm
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That is a beautiful plane. Where did you get the Bouncing Betty graphics?
Old 06-15-2004 | 12:28 PM
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Wow, a G-26 eh? I have seen one with a G-38, but I thought the G-26 would be not powerful enough. How does it fly? I mean tell us a little more than 'great'.

Curious...

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