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Old 07-09-2003 | 05:43 PM
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I would like to know you suggestions regarding a good first biplane, ARF or KIT.
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I built the Sig Hog Bipe. Nice kit, excellent flyer!
Old 07-09-2003 | 06:22 PM
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120 motor and up
dave patrick ultimate....
Old 07-09-2003 | 06:29 PM
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Isn't the ultimate a little unstable?
Old 07-09-2003 | 06:31 PM
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LenLee, which engine are you using in yours?
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If you'd like a kit.. then Goldberg's Ultimate (not unstable at all... at least mine was not... lost it due to a battery/switch problem though... )
Old 07-09-2003 | 06:41 PM
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What about the Great Planes Pitts?
Old 07-09-2003 | 06:44 PM
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Hi jucava. I'm using a Saito 91. Plenty of power...
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Forget every biplane on the market except Dave Patrick and Carl Goldberg.

If you want the best ARF out there in a Bipe that is a reasonable size for flying characteristics, portability, price and quality: Get the Carl Goldberg Ultimate ARF and put an OS 1.08 2s or 1.20 4s in it for ultimate performance.

If you can afford it and can handle the size, get the DP 1.20 Ultimate.

I have/ have had both and seen many of the others. People can argue the point, but nothing compares to the above two planes. All you have to do is find one in stock someplace. They sell out as fast as the companies can import them.

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Old 07-09-2003 | 08:57 PM
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I agree with Splais, and add the following from my experience:

My first bipe (I still have it) is a Sig Hog Bipe, done in dark red with white "flashes". I quickly learned how tough it is to see, because of the tight profile, and added big yellow backgrounds behind the "flashes", and made them red, and added yellow on the wings. Visibility is better, but the airplane still is hard to see because of the 42" ws. It is a superb flier, powered with an OS 91FS, which I consider the optimum selection for that airframe. Oh yes, use a 70-oz servo for the ailerons, 'cause you are driving all 4 from 1 servo.

My second bipe (I still have it, too) is a Dave Patrick Ultimate 120, powered with a Saito 150. The Patrick colors and the 60" ws make all the difference in the world in visibility. It is adequately powered with the 150, but not overpowered, and flies better than the Hog, which you would expect due to the greater size.

Happy biping!
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i also have an hog bipe they are very relaxing to fly i have a 91 saito on mine and it does ok vertical is limited how did you get all 4 ailerons on one servo i have 2 servos one for each wing
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Single servo in bottom wing w/vertical pushrods to upper wing ailerons. Uwa la! (or whatever)
P.S. I didn't build it that way, I bought it in a weak moment, but I enjoy it.
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im sure that works fine i dont use flaperons either with mine, isnt it a joy to fly
Old 07-10-2003 | 12:06 PM
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I like the Hog idea.
Old 07-10-2003 | 06:52 PM
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I used the dual servo setup on my Hog's ailerons. The latest hog bipe kits supply you with the materials and instructions necessary for the dual servo conversion, so it's not really that hard to do.
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What about a Tiger Moth ARF ?
Old 07-11-2003 | 12:43 PM
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I heard that those are a little difficult to fly.
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Tiger Moth: I have been told that they fly very easily, but have slow response to control movements, so you have to think ahead to avoid predicaments.

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