BH Gilmore Red Lion 50cc
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I use these: http://www.unitedhobbies.com/unitedh...idProduct=3743
And a Futaba S9202 on the throttle
And a Futaba S9202 on the throttle
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RE: BH Gilmore Red Lion 50cc
Ok All,
Do you think the firewall needs beefing up? looks a little weak..
Did your bird come with Oleo struts?
I read the LC mounting block need beefing up, has any one done this..
She isnt going to fly with out at least an hour on the engine...Hopfully the exhaust ring will be done this long week end..
havent told the wife yet!!! going to be a bit hard to hide this one....
Do you think the firewall needs beefing up? looks a little weak..
Did your bird come with Oleo struts?
I read the LC mounting block need beefing up, has any one done this..
She isnt going to fly with out at least an hour on the engine...Hopfully the exhaust ring will be done this long week end..
havent told the wife yet!!! going to be a bit hard to hide this one....
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yes, the struts shoud be included in the set for sure.
Some have beefed up the firewall, I have not.....only added glue around all the joints.
My landing gear blocks where all fine, and since my wings where all torn up I coud see this better.
The guys with the small version of this plane seem to complain alot about the gear blocks.......but it is also made differently.
Some have beefed up the firewall, I have not.....only added glue around all the joints.
My landing gear blocks where all fine, and since my wings where all torn up I coud see this better.
The guys with the small version of this plane seem to complain alot about the gear blocks.......but it is also made differently.
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The struts looked like they were a new type.
Ill prob just fill the firewall with glue.
Got no reaction with the missus after I told her about the new bird.....
Ill prob just fill the firewall with glue.
Got no reaction with the missus after I told her about the new bird.....
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Just unpacked the bird..Did a mock set up..Nice..[X(]
If the missus keeps whinging about my new toy, the box for the bird is a good size to bury her in!!
If the missus keeps whinging about my new toy, the box for the bird is a good size to bury her in!!
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The engine was ready to have a long bench run today.
Tried to start her, Refused to fire..Then the OB glow went up in smoke..1st time Ive used it..Was working Ok on the bench testing..
Didnt have to cut the wires of the PCB as there were melted off..Shorted the wires to get the glow plugs working But still failed to fire..
She just kept on burning the wires..I suspect I have a shorted glow or plug lead...My lead are made out off wheel collars with some silicon tubing to insulate from the plug body...
The Exhaust ring that I was making out of copper was going to be too heavy, so I bought a Keleo ring..
Tried to start her, Refused to fire..Then the OB glow went up in smoke..1st time Ive used it..Was working Ok on the bench testing..
Didnt have to cut the wires of the PCB as there were melted off..Shorted the wires to get the glow plugs working But still failed to fire..
She just kept on burning the wires..I suspect I have a shorted glow or plug lead...My lead are made out off wheel collars with some silicon tubing to insulate from the plug body...
The Exhaust ring that I was making out of copper was going to be too heavy, so I bought a Keleo ring..
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Found the cause of the OB glow driver melting...Over 40A being pulled from the battery..Removed the glow leads and still had a short.
I had a cable tie on one of the glow leads to keep it away from the exhaust outlet, didnt realise the back engine mount had sharp edges on it...Yep Murphy struck.. it cut through the insulation....
By good battery..8xAA 2.25 Nhmi...
Oh well next week for the run..
I had a cable tie on one of the glow leads to keep it away from the exhaust outlet, didnt realise the back engine mount had sharp edges on it...Yep Murphy struck.. it cut through the insulation....
By good battery..8xAA 2.25 Nhmi...
Oh well next week for the run..
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Ok got the engine running yesterday..
A quick vid.
Did 5 tanks on her today...On 1 run I over fueled the tank and the exaust ring filled up with fuel. I tryed to do a hand start she started but had a weid sound like a hissing sound...She was running backwards!! never thought a 4 stroke could do that..Must have been the fuel in the ring..The only way I could shut it down was to uplug the glow plugs. Tryed again and she was fine..
I can get her to idle at 1300RPM and will over rev to 8400RPM then back off to 7200RPM
She sound so sweet... The other modelers fell in love with the sound....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GamGcr6Srho
A quick vid.
Did 5 tanks on her today...On 1 run I over fueled the tank and the exaust ring filled up with fuel. I tryed to do a hand start she started but had a weid sound like a hissing sound...She was running backwards!! never thought a 4 stroke could do that..Must have been the fuel in the ring..The only way I could shut it down was to uplug the glow plugs. Tryed again and she was fine..
I can get her to idle at 1300RPM and will over rev to 8400RPM then back off to 7200RPM
She sound so sweet... The other modelers fell in love with the sound....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GamGcr6Srho
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Ran the ASP up yesterday and she ran like s___.
Nothing was touched from last week...
The Plane is still wraped up. Like I said Iwasnt going the do any thing untill the engine is perfect...
Nothing was touched from last week...
The Plane is still wraped up. Like I said Iwasnt going the do any thing untill the engine is perfect...
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The engine is just about ready. She now runs much smoother with out the glow system at 1/4 throtle. Finnished off the 8th liter of fuel today.. Going to order the Microsense OB glow...
Going to remove the back plate and check out the master and link rods for damage..Oh and fix the mongrel oil leak from a pushrod tube..
He is the vid on todays last run..With a post crash report at the front.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yG0MlSiH-9g
Going to remove the back plate and check out the master and link rods for damage..Oh and fix the mongrel oil leak from a pushrod tube..
He is the vid on todays last run..With a post crash report at the front.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yG0MlSiH-9g
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RE: BH Gilmore Red Lion 50cc
Hi Guys, just an update..
Havent done any RC stuff for a few weeks..[&o]My #1 son has started speedway last week and all my time and money is being thrown in to it[:@]. Boss's orders. She hates my hobby with a passion[:'(].....
Havent done any RC stuff for a few weeks..[&o]My #1 son has started speedway last week and all my time and money is being thrown in to it[:@]. Boss's orders. She hates my hobby with a passion[:'(].....
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ORIGINAL: MANFRED
Tell the ol ball and chain that you'll quit this hobby and go back to drinkin in bars and carousing till all hours of the night, see how she likes your hobby then!
Tell the ol ball and chain that you'll quit this hobby and go back to drinkin in bars and carousing till all hours of the night, see how she likes your hobby then!
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Well I could go back to water sking again. Still have both boats...06 was the last time they were on the water...
Now running a V8 ski boat isnt cheap. and all the guys and their girl friends. that will get her going..Yes I have a green eyed monster....
Now running a V8 ski boat isnt cheap. and all the guys and their girl friends. that will get her going..Yes I have a green eyed monster....
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RE: BH Gilmore Red Lion 50cc
Hi Sonnich, I have recently bought the BH 50cc Gilmore and a SC 5 cyl' radial, (same as your ASP of course), I'm just starting to look at mounting the engine so a couple of questions for you if you don't mind.
1. did you place the prop driver at the 172mm recommended distance, if so I guess you used wood spacers as the engine mount to prop driver is 12mm less?
2. if not what did you do?
Thanks, Keith.
1. did you place the prop driver at the 172mm recommended distance, if so I guess you used wood spacers as the engine mount to prop driver is 12mm less?
2. if not what did you do?
Thanks, Keith.
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Ive had to put the bird on the back burner for a few weeks..[&o]
Trying to get a Cub ready..Yes way over powered 1.8m wing with a 91[>:] She is going to be a sports plane.
Trying to get a Cub ready..Yes way over powered 1.8m wing with a 91[>:] She is going to be a sports plane.
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Hi Kieth.
I just bolted it to the firewall as it is, and moved the cowl back.
I then glued on some new wood blocks to the rear side of the existing cowl blocks, so I could use the pre drilled holes.
I just bolted it to the firewall as it is, and moved the cowl back.
I then glued on some new wood blocks to the rear side of the existing cowl blocks, so I could use the pre drilled holes.