Cermark Arfs
 

Anyone have any experiences with Cermark arfs.....thinking about the prop powered F16, never heard anything about the quality of these planes, have you?

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VERY nice buid work lite and looks very good and i'm talking about there 60 size f 16 get it its built good and the covering is as good to

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have their low wing sport bobcat nice came with rnginr and servos sold the engine tiger shark??
put in tt46

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if you had run the tiger shark you would have sold the tt46 they have power for there size and the ones i have are reliable as an os the new one:D

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I had a sukhoi of theirs. It was a piece of Junk

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Geistware,

Why?

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I bought that Sukhoi from him, and love it.

The complaint about the older (not the recently introduced) Cermark Sukhoi had to do with the inexpensive covering jobs and inadequate landing gear bracing. A buddy and I have 2 each. These old Sukhois, with a little paint, bracing and better hardware, are awesome flying, fast machines. We run 91 FX's in them. We bought the first ones because the cost was $120. Well worth it. I understand they were much more expensive when first introduced. (I bought Geistware's from him for $50)

Not for slow flying, though.

Good luck,
Dave Olson

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Thanks Scar...

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Dave, I am glad that you liked the plane.
It was good that I found someone that could put it to good use!
WHy not send or post pictures of it!

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prophanger it was not the new one looked a little crude around the edges it was a deal however
the plane, engine and 4 servos I think 199 or 179I got$50 for the engine I use the servos for
thottles only switched them out for hitec 425s

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ok the old ones are real dogs i was a little uneasy about paying even a dollar for one to i run one of their new ones there a great running engine but the old ones are great for fishing ankers:D ok and what servos do they give you any good i'm looking at ther javiline looks good with the gms 47 they dont say what servos :D

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Their Javelin is a very nice piece of airframe--light, priced right and a winner aerodynamically. I would not trust factory labor to install servos and control hookups on my plane. I wanted my own color scheme, so I stripped their covering off, opened the bottom of the fuse to put in my own elevator pushrod. I was happy with what I found under the covering, and from a workmanship point of view the covering job was quite decent. I've seen their full assembled package Bobcat fly--it flew fine, but I still don't like a factory set-up product.

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i'm like you dont trust anyhands but mine:D i have my one hardware tanks wheels but i like the engine it comes with but i like the covering i need a blue plane its just that stuff is metalic and hard for me to see:)

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Uh Huh, I too bought one of the "OLD" Soukoi ones. I got so discouraged with the crappy wood, bad glue joints, and misfitting parts, it still hangs on the wall, unfinished. [:'(]

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Cermark F-16 Retracts removed for (by) Grass Field. Control surfaces sealed to eliminate Flutter. Super Tiger Ninty Macs Tuned Pipe 11X9 Apc Prop 12,600 Static. Sweet flying SCREAMER see post on f-16 for more tips.

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Hey Cootertwo,
Ya wanna sell that Sukhoi?:D
Bruce

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This might help answer a question or 2....

http://www.radiocontrolzone.com/foru...hreadid=156553

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Ordered a Cermark Javelin 14 days ago. UPS flexed the box and crushed the fuse. Called Cermark, they sent out another(UPS AGAIN), with return postage for the first one.

The Second ARF arrived yesterday, this one was damaged as well. In fact, it was damaged the exact same way. Looks like UPS is bending the boxes. The fuse is thicker than the wing, so it gets crushed. Wing and other parts are OK.
UPS is killing the mail order ARF business! I guess they will have to put plywood sheets on top and bottom to get one here in one piece.

Hello from Dallas, Texas!

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I have about a dozen flights on my new Javelin, or, at least, I think it's a Javelin? The covering
scheme doesn't match the ad on their website or the artwork on the box it was delivered in.
No problem, I like this color scheme better. The quality of the arf is excellent and it was a breeze to assemble. Flys great with a OS 46.

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I have both the new Pitts and Sukhoi. They are both great flyers!

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hey everybody has anyone bought the banchee 3d ? if so do you like it what do you not like> thanks for the input!!

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Where can I get this F-16? Leads would be appreciated.

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Alan,
What's the differance between the new and old Pitts? I'm gonna dust off a friends that has been sitting and get it flying again after about 2 years of storage. Any experiance with the old one?

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Seems to be a problem with Texas UPS... The problem got so severe with my orders from Tower... (and other peoples in the area) that Tower started shipping Fed-Ex for anything going through the Belton UPS center. They reshipped ONE ORDER 6 times because I kept sending the mangled boxes back unopened.

When I lived in Iowa...the UPS boxes came through unscathed... and Fed-Ex boxes looked like they'd been run over by the trucks.[&:]

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Here is a Build and Fly Thread on the Banchee E-3D:

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...54#post2063354


And here is another on the Freedom 3D:

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...hreadid=197916

I have built and flown both of them, and the quality has been uniformly excellent.
and they are both great 3D aircraft...

The Banchee is based on Gary Wrights improvements to the original E3D.

Regards,
Harley

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basinbum, i built and flew an original cermark pitts (i like the red and white scale look better anyway) for three seasons and just sold it to a guy in texas and he is enjoying it now. Mine had a Saito 180 in it so i beefed it up a bit. What i believe are nessasary mods reguardless are: cover the cabanes with glass and repaint, strengthen the wing saddle area with light ply on the inside, remove the dowel it the wing and replace with a longer one (you won't believe how short it is), epoxy the gear mount area, glass the fire wall (i replaced the engine mount and strengthened the fire wall), replace the stock tail wheel assembly. In addition i moved the elevator servos to the rear, made new end srtuts and new pushrods for the top ailerons, and put solid flying wires on the tail. This all seams like alot, but it is worth it. Even after all this she is still light and agil. This plane flys and looks just great! I only sold her to help finance my bigger stuff this year. You can go to my old ad and see some of the mods. I know your question wasn't addressed to me but i do have a couple hundred flights on this type so i hope this helps. Don't know what's in the one you have, but if it's got the power, and stregthened a little, she will really amaze you and the crowd.

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How's a YS 140 sound? Thanks Ram, I'll check out all the stuff you mentioned.

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And that answers that [8D]. Not having seen the older verion, I wouldn't have been able to give you that information so good thing ram3500 was able to chime in.

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I guess they don't make the F-16 anymore. I just checked their web site and several others and find no sign of one. Anybody know for sure?

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The YS 140 sounds like great power for her. A guy in our club had this setup. I regrettably say, had. But it needs to be on a conventional mount and not the stock wooden one. They just don't hold up. I tried them and they will shake apart no matter what you do. I'm very serious about the wing dowel also. I was doing outside loops with mine one day and it just wasn't tracking right. I set up for a landing and on taxing over i noticed that THE BOTTOM WING WAS HANGING FROM THE END STRUTS LIKE A PARASOL! I had replaced the original end struts with ones i had made with 2 layers of aircraft ply and i think that saved my plane. I came to find that the front dowel was only 3/8 in long! It had come out and then the back bolts snapped off! Now that also says something about the strength of her wings also. Cermark has done a lot right with this plane also.

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:D thanks Harley for the info!

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hey guys im thinking about buying a banchee
i have a saito 72 jsut laying around and i was wonder what you guys think of the plane, how would the engine do in it?