Chip Hyde's Cap-X - Building & Flying
 

Let's get this thread going. I just picked the plane up, and I love it already. The first thing you notice is the covering - not one wrinkle and all the graphics are pre-applied. The covering is made over in China. I just took a ton of pictures and posted them on my site: http://www.fastcashrc.com/capx_build.htm

Let the building begin!

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I'm getting ready to hinge the wing and I'm already thinking about mounting the radio... Anyway, I'm going with the carbon fiber pushrod setup from Central Hobbies - http://www.centralhobbies.com/contro...e/carbrod.html

Has anyone had problems with pulling the titanium rod out of the carbon fiber sleeve? I see lots of people run threaded rod through the center, but I'm not sure why. Is it to be safe, or is it because the titanium rod can come loose? I'm going to use the JB Weld, which I know is very strong.

Chip Hyde's Cap-X - Building & Flying
 

I just hinged the wing and glued the wing joiner into one wing panel. This plane will come together quickly.

My Fromeco goodies also just arrived. I got the 2200mha LiPo pack and super regulator / fail safe switch. The 2200mha pack weighs 3.5oz and the regulator/switch 1.5oz. These LiPo batteries are VERY light.

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Awesome! Show us some more pictures[8D]

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Looks good Going Vert. I just got the tracking number on mine and its on it's way. Question for you, do you think it is possible to remove the graphic stickers? Thats the only thing that I don't care for ('course I haven't got mine yet). I kinda prefer to put my own ghraphics/stickers on my planes.

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Run 4-40 threaded rod through the carbon fiber rod, place 4-40 nuts on each end and tighten down snug so that a small amount of pressure is on the rod. This makes one strong rod, no way it will bend or break unless you run over it with a truck. The titanium end pieces? they make a special CA, its black, to bond metals to carbon fiber. and once you place it it is there for life. No going back.
I've never used JB Weld on a carbon fiber/metal rod, and don't know anyone that has. JB Weld has great tinsel strength but sets up brittle. In a pull force situation, I'm not sure that would be a good idea, and I don't think it will bond with Carbon Fiber unless you rough it up and clean it real good. maybe someone else out there has used it or has better knowledge on this application. I would be interested in other responses.

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Ya - you can take those stickers off, but it's going to take hours. They are everywhere, and they're tough buggers.

What servos are you guys going with? I'm debating between the 5945 and 5625s. Also, who makes the lightest 2 3/4" wheels?

Drew

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As far as the Carbon rods and end fittings go, I use alchohol to clean the inside of the pushrod and out side of the end fitting. I have used epoxy and gorrila glue with good results. I do not use a metal pushrod inside, why add the extra wieght? the rod is plenty strong enough. I have used these procedures on my 80" cap with 50CC brison and like the results.

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I was looking at the covering job again this morning, and they did a great job. My wife was even impressed, and she hates all my planes. There is no way I could cover a plane this well, and the material they use feels stronger than others.

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The JB weld with the titanium ends is the way to go, everyone uses it and its recommended by Central Hobbies for thier rod kits. They wont pull out if you leave them alone for 24hrs. If your going to run soft threaded rod thru it whats the point. In that case just use 4-40 rods. I use tha Central Hobbies carbon rods with the titanium end on all my planes.

Joe

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I agree with Jbrannon. Why bother with the expense of carbon fiber if you are just gonna weigh it down with steel inside. JB weld is strong enough for just about anything and that is what is recommended for use with the setup.

As to servo's I have a full set (5) 5975's that are just screaming for a home and I think this is it. They are wicked fast and on 6 volts put out more then enough power. My usual Sig tail wheel setup and a set of good wheels for the front & I guess she should be right.

I asked Chip about the gas engine thing and he says that my 4.2 lb. Roto 35 should work out just fine with this plane by putting the batteries back in the aft end of the radio compartment so I think I have found a home for that engine as well. This is starting to look like an affordable project.

Goin Vert, if the stickers are that tough I will probably just leave 'em on. I spoke with the lady at planes plus and she says that the covering material is designed to take the temp. changes without wrinkling, I hope she is right. She also says that they have ordered the stuff for sale seperately, "just in case". Not sure if there are plans to retail it or not.

I was torn, since no one was talking about having one yet I was about ready to cancel my order and go with the Dave Patrick Edge. Didn't really need either one of them but I keep looking for that perfect 1/4 scale plane. Hope this one turns out to be it!

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if anyone wants a copy of the "temporary" manual, send me an email at [email protected]

I just PDFed it and can send it out. I'll also post it on my web site tonight.

I'm going to buy the 5945s...

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I agree with cstevec ... having the graphics applied is a bummer.[:o]
I had a scheme all picked out and was about to order it at my local graphic house.

Looking at going vert's web site, the graphics are nice so I'll probably let it ride. Just not the scheme I wanted ... got to be different !

Nice to know that the film will be available if/when we need a repair, Thanks Chip !! [8D]

I am really looking forward to building (assembling) and flying this bird. ;)

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Hey cstevec its funny you mention DP 330L I have one with only 8 flights on it was going to sell it and try the CAP X. I have a 1.60 OS FX on it with 8 flights. Its just a great flying airplane. I just like to do new airplanes ARFS< fly them a few times and sell them.

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I got the wing glued together. I used 45min. epoxy this time. I like 45 over 30 - I had much more time to coat, fit, and clean everything. The other nice thing is this alignment rod. It makes joining the wings much easier. It's impossible to twist the wing when your gluing them together.

I'm done for the night. Next step - tail feathers. I also got my used Saito 1.80 tonight. Looks great. I'm going with Dubro 3" foam wheels and dubro heavy duty pull pull. Anyone buying Hitec Digitals - Cheif has the lowest price I can find.

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Hey Going Vert, Once you get your best price, CALL Servo City and get a price from them. They advertise they will beat any price, and they advertise free shipping on orders over ** $. You may be pleasently suprised. My best price on the 9645's was $78.99, on the 9745's it was $74.99. Just a suggestion.

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Boy, I'm moving at a snale's pace on the plane. I got the wing bolt mounting plate on last night, and that's it. The fit between the wing and fuse was so tight, I had to shave some wood off the back of the fuse to get the wing to fit.

Tonight, I'll mess with the tail feathers...

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Guess what ? They forgot to include the CG info in the
Temp- manual ! [&o] I left post for Chip about this in his
forum.

Stick2K

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i'd like to get into larger scale airplanes one day but i've been wondering how much different is flying a plane of this size (or any other 50cc sized gasser) compare to flying 40-sized nitro burners? do they have a higher landing speed? are they more responsive? just wondering what to expect when i finally make that jump

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I wouldn't call this a 50cc plane. It's more like a 1.6 2-stroke / 1.8 4-stroke size plane that can take a 50cc motor if you want insane power.

The true 50cc planes are simple to fly. In many cases, they can land as fast or slow as a 60/90 size plane. You just need to make sure you have enough power as you turn for final - I've seen these planes snap into the ground or drop pretty fast when you turn for final without enough power.

I see this Cap-X as a go between a 90 size and 50cc gasser. It's a great plane to get ready for a 50cc...

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Waaahlll, the BBT just dropped off my Cap X. Life is good. The plane came without a scratch and all of the parts (wheels and such) are here. I have a 3 day weekend coming up and a new airplane............ Gee, I wonder what I'm going to be doing this weekend? :D

Made a command decision the other night and I am going to pull the ZDZ 40 off my Sig Extra and replace it with the Roto 35, freeing up the ZDZ for the Cap. After looking at the plane, I think the ZDZ will be a better match. Besides, I think it is gonna be a whole lot more fun to fly.! ;)

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I'm working on mine right now, the only thing i am doing different is to use robart hinges in the rudder and elevator and radio south ca hinges in the ailerones. The ones that come with the kit are simular to the hanger9 hinges and most folks have lots of problem with them. OS160, bisson muffler, perry pump. Its going to be interesting to compare this to my Katana with the same setup.

zonk

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Hey guys,

I can't believe I'm the only one who notice that the CG info for
the Capx is missing. Maybe no one else has read the manual ![:o]

Except for Going Vert , can't find anyone else assembling the plane.

This is really a nice looking Arf. I'm anxious to started assembly.

Stick2K

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I'm going to hit it hard this weekend. I've got almost everything ordered (parts that is). I'm going with all Airwild servo arms 1.25" and 3" on the rudder. I'm also going to increase the size of the tank. The Saito 1.8 really drinks it down fast.

I'll keep everyone posted.

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For anyone interested, here is the temporary Cap X manual. http://www.fastcashrc.com/capx_manual.pdf

After I ordered my Airwild 1.25 servo arms, I realized they probably won't fit under the elevator... Murphy's Law.... What are you guys using for servo arms - length & type?