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Richard L. 06-21-2004 07:52 AM

VQ P-40 Build
 
I received the new and improved VQ P-40 not too long ago. This new version has built-in wing wash out to help eliminate tip stall tendency. For more info, check out

[link]http://www.vqmodelaircraft.com/products/aircraft/p40.html[/link]

http://www.whitetyphoon.com/rc/vq_p40/pic01a.jpg

http://www.whitetyphoon.com/rc/vq_p40/pic01b.jpg

http://www.whitetyphoon.com/rc/vq_p40/pic01c.jpg

http://www.whitetyphoon.com/rc/vq_p40/pic01d.jpg

http://www.whitetyphoon.com/rc/vq_p40/pic01e.jpg

Richard L. 06-21-2004 08:00 AM

RE: VQ P-40 Build
 
I will tackle pneumatic retract installation. Since the plane comes with free oleo struts, I will try those dreaded Robart 615 rotating retracts.

First, trim the stock mounting rails to accomodate the retract housings, which are close to 1" wide. Note that I cut out notches in the rails for the screw heads to clear:

http://www.whitetyphoon.com/rc/vq_p40/pic03d.jpg

Richard L. 06-21-2004 08:10 AM

RE: VQ P-40 Build
 
Next, 5/16" thick hardwood rails get epoxied on top of the stock rails to bring the mounting surfaces out flush with the wing surface:

http://www.whitetyphoon.com/rc/vq_p40/pic03a.jpg

Care must be taken to ensure that the rails lay perfectly flat and parallel to each other. Otherwise, the retracts might bind. It's a good idea to glue the extra wood in using 30-minute epoxy, and then lay the retract mechanism on top of the rails while the epoxy cure:

http://www.whitetyphoon.com/rc/vq_p40/pic03b.jpg

Richard L. 06-21-2004 08:13 AM

RE: VQ P-40 Build
 
Here is a picture showing the retract in the wing:

http://www.whitetyphoon.com/rc/vq_p40/pic03c.jpg

Richard L. 06-21-2004 08:18 AM

RE: VQ P-40 Build
 
I use an aluminum miter box clamped to a vise, together with a small hack saw with fine metal cutting blade to cut the oleo struts to proper length.

http://www.whitetyphoon.com/rc/vq_p40/pic04a.jpg

You could also use a Dremel tool with a cut off wheel to do the task, but you run the risk of not making a straight 90-degree cut.

Richard L. 06-21-2004 08:30 AM

RE: VQ P-40 Build
 
Cut off excess wire strut, leaving around 3/4":

http://www.whitetyphoon.com/rc/vq_p40/pic04b.jpg

Richard L. 06-21-2004 08:39 AM

RE: VQ P-40 Build
 
Spread a thin coat of JB Weld to the inside of the oleo strut and insert a metal bushing for 3/16" dia. music wire into it. While holding the oleo strut in one hand, use a small hammer in the other hand to pound the metal bushing in. Don't miss or you will be hitting your hand with a hammer, and it might not be very pleasant.

http://www.whitetyphoon.com/rc/vq_p40/pic04c.jpg

Richard L. 06-21-2004 08:49 AM

RE: VQ P-40 Build
 
Retract with oleo and wheel in place:

http://www.whitetyphoon.com/rc/vq_p40/pic04d.jpg

Richard L. 06-21-2004 08:54 AM

RE: VQ P-40 Build
 
Mark two spots for the set screws that are 1/8" and 3/8" from the end of the oleo respectively:

http://www.whitetyphoon.com/rc/vq_p40/pic04e.jpg

Richard L. 06-21-2004 09:01 AM

RE: VQ P-40 Build
 
Micro-Mark MicroLux mini drill press and vise come in handy when drilling holes for the set screws:

http://www.whitetyphoon.com/rc/vq_p40/pic04f.jpg

Richard L. 06-21-2004 09:08 AM

RE: VQ P-40 Build
 
Drill and tap two holes for 6-32 set screws. Use 1/16" drill bit and cutting/tapping fluid to drill pilot holes:

http://www.whitetyphoon.com/rc/vq_p40/pic04g.jpg

Make sure to wear eye and nose protection because metal shavings will be flying.

Richard L. 06-21-2004 09:12 AM

RE: VQ P-40 Build
 
Final size drill bit is then used:

http://www.whitetyphoon.com/rc/vq_p40/pic04h.jpg

That mini drill press can do the job with ease.

Richard L. 06-21-2004 09:17 AM

RE: VQ P-40 Build
 
Tap for 6-32 set screws:

http://www.whitetyphoon.com/rc/vq_p40/pic04i.jpg

Set screws in place:

http://www.whitetyphoon.com/rc/vq_p40/pic04j.jpg

Richard L. 06-21-2004 09:27 AM

RE: VQ P-40 Build
 
Retract with oleo and wheel in place:

http://www.whitetyphoon.com/rc/vq_p40/pic04k.jpg

Kmot 06-21-2004 05:53 PM

RE: VQ P-40 Build
 
I just installed some Robart oleo's and they suggest putting the set screws on opposite sides. FWIW...

Richard L. 06-21-2004 06:09 PM

RE: VQ P-40 Build
 
On my 7/16" Robart oleos and 3/8" straight Robart oleos, the instructions say to put the set screws on the same side. This way, both set screws press the music wire against one side of the oleo, resulting in a tighter fit, more friction between the wire and the interior oleo wall, and less play. If you think about it, putting the set screws on opposite sides would create a pivot point where they meet, and the music wire would want to rotate around that point.

Richard L. 06-21-2004 06:23 PM

RE: VQ P-40 Build
 
Also, putting the set screws on opposite sides means that the oleo and wheel are held only by the tips of the set screws. Putting the set screws on the same side means the oleo and wheel are being held by the much stronger frictional force between the music wire and the interior wall of the oleo, in addition to the tips of the set screws. This is like clamping the music wire against the oleo.

Kmot 06-21-2004 08:06 PM

RE: VQ P-40 Build
 
Well gee whiz, my Robart's are 3/8 offset oleo's and the instructions specifically stated placing the set screws 180* from each other.

I think you should be sure to grind the flats on your music wire too. The tension is not supposed to be pressing the music wire against the oleo wall but instead the locking force of the set screw against a flat area (that you grind).

Now think about this: two opposed flats are double the area of one flat. Two set screws on two opposed flats are double the locking tension compared to two set screws on one flat. The opposed set screws will have much greater resistance to twisting than the same side set screws. ;)

Richard L. 06-21-2004 10:11 PM

RE: VQ P-40 Build
 
Well, here are the instructions for the 7/16" diameter offset oleos:

http://whitetyphoon.com/rc/vq_p40/pic04l.jpg

Here are the instructions for the 3/8" diameter straight oleos:

http://whitetyphoon.com/rc/vq_p40/pic04m.jpg

Yes, I always grind flat spots for the set screws to press against.

Consequences of opposing set screws:

http://whitetyphoon.com/rc/vq_p40/strut.jpg

Kmot 06-21-2004 10:44 PM

RE: VQ P-40 Build
 
I don't have my instruction sheet anymore. Maybe it has been changed since mine were manufactured.

In anycase, your drawings are cool. How do you make those? As for the opposiing set screws, they are still at 1/8 and 3/8 positions just on opposite sides.

PLANE JIM 06-21-2004 10:48 PM

RE: VQ P-40 Build
 
I thought this was a ARF-I guess you mean to assemble and not to build?

Richard L. 06-22-2004 01:40 AM

RE: VQ P-40 Build
 

ORIGINAL: Kmot

your drawings are cool. How do you make those?
I used Macromedia Flash MX to make those drawings. Any other vector programs such as Adobe Illustrator or Corel Draw can also be used.

scottyboy 06-22-2004 01:02 PM

RE: VQ P-40 Build
 
If you have a minor accident with the plane and have to repair some structure, how are you going to recover the area to match ?

I don't know where you would get covering to match that stuff

Crazy Scottie Mon

Richard L. 06-22-2004 01:22 PM

RE: VQ P-40 Build
 
The plane comes with some extra trim sheets, so you can either use those or clear tape to do minor repairs.

Swat Cop 06-22-2004 07:56 PM

RE: VQ P-40 Build
 
Is that a heat shrink covering or that shelf paper stuff?


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