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piper_chuck 03-22-2005 03:03 PM

ARF, kit, or both?
 
The idea for this poll actually came up in a thread in the kit building forum. Inquiring minds want to know. :D

ckangaroo70 03-22-2005 03:34 PM

RE: ARF, kit, or both?
 
Great Post Chuck! Your Poll covers exactly what I was inquiring to find out! Thanks.

piper_chuck 03-22-2005 03:46 PM

RE: ARF, kit, or both?
 
Maybe some of the suppliers will be interested in the results.

tailskid 03-22-2005 04:01 PM

RE: ARF, kit, or both?
 
Kits, kits, kits.....ya gotta love'em :)

Jerry

McFlyboy 03-22-2005 04:10 PM

RE: ARF, kit, or both?
 
yippee, I'm in thge majority for once in my life.:D

ckangaroo70 03-22-2005 04:39 PM

RE: ARF, kit, or both?
 
Looks like we are off to a good voter turnout! Some very interesting results showing up!

piper_chuck 03-22-2005 07:09 PM

RE: ARF, kit, or both?
 
Yup, quite.

drumbum 03-22-2005 07:09 PM

RE: ARF, kit, or both?
 
Some one needs to make some 3D kits that arent FLAT or 30% and up..

gjeffers 03-22-2005 07:40 PM

RE: ARF, kit, or both?
 
this poll is great to find out what most people have done in the rc plane world but does not reflect what a lot of people want to do in the rc plane world.
I would love to build a plane, but can not because of time spent working and am forced to fly arfs, but dont get me wrong i love arfs and flying, and am grateful for arfs but probley wont have the time or space to build till i retire. and a warbird it will be[sm=pirate.gif]

rcjon 03-22-2005 08:12 PM

RE: ARF, kit, or both?
 
Gary,

I just finished the assembly of my first kit, but after messing around with covering, I decided to sub that part out. It was a Burrito profile and fairly simple, but I enjoyed the assembly very much. It took me about the same amount of time to get it to the Ready To Cover stage that assemblying an ARF takes. It was very gratifying but of course when I get it back from the friend that is covering it for me, I'll have an ARF.

You might want to try a profile kit, I recommend a Swany Model Product (www.swanyshouse.com) - it doesn't really take that much time - and if I can do it, anyone can.

jon

gjeffers 03-22-2005 08:26 PM

RE: ARF, kit, or both?
 
i more than likley will give it a try Jon, later on. i just (a little whining) work 11 hrs a day 5-6 days a week, so i just like to get home and go fly. i do have good hrs(leave the house at 400am and get home at 300pm so i have a couple of hrs to fly before i have to do my chores and go nite nite. i drive a dump truck for US
Borax out here in the mojave desert and at least have steady hrs, but i do want to build a war bird and will sometime and may take your advice.

Thanks

ckangaroo70 03-23-2005 07:48 AM

RE: ARF, kit, or both?
 
52 Votes and Counting! There are a few percentages on that Poll that surpriced me, but I will wait for the Poll to run several more days before I discuss the numbers. I don't want to taint the voting process with my jabber.

gjeffers 03-23-2005 09:09 AM

RE: ARF, kit, or both?
 
your results are going to be different depending which forum the poll is in, this is the arf-rtf forum.
I would also post this in the kit-builders forum and then combine the two. it might be more accurate.

piper_chuck 03-23-2005 09:31 AM

RE: ARF, kit, or both?
 
The idea actually came from a thread in the kit forum. I posted a link to the survey in that thread.

Gray Beard 03-23-2005 10:53 AM

RE: ARF, kit, or both?
 
I'm just not sure how to answer this one. I started with the Fire Baby CL in the 50s, maybe the first real ARF ever built. Then went to kits. From kits I went to scratch/plans building with A kit tossed in there every now and then. I just finished my first ARF yesterday, bought it used, can't pass on A deal like this very often. A 1/4 scale Extra. I just know that with some planes the ARF may be the better way to go so down the line I know I will have another ARF.

ckangaroo70 03-23-2005 01:33 PM

RE: ARF, kit, or both?
 
I actually started with a Great Planes Bridi Trainer .40. It was originally a Kit, but it came to me allready built, so I actually classified it as an ARF when answering the Poll question because I did not actually build the Plane myself. My Second Plane was a True ARF that I assembled, and then several Kits that I built and ARFs I assembled were to follow that.

ORIGINAL: Gray Beard

I'm just not sure how to answer this one. I started with the Fire Baby CL in the 50s, maybe the first real ARF ever built. Then went to kits. From kits I went to scratch/plans building with A kit tossed in there every now and then. I just finished my first ARF yesterday, bought it used, can't pass on A deal like this very often. A 1/4 scale Extra. I just know that with some planes the ARF may be the better way to go so down the line I know I will have another ARF.

mrbass111 03-23-2005 05:01 PM

RE: ARF, kit, or both?
 
you left out started out on rtf's and now fly arf's.

ckangaroo70 03-23-2005 06:01 PM

RE: ARF, kit, or both?
 
You are correct, but ARF's are basically RTF's, they are just missing an engine, radio, radio equipment, and RTF usually has a little more of the assembly done, but a RTF is basically an ARF is probally how Piper Chuck also looks at it when he started the poll. I can't hardly imagine if all someone bought was ready to Flys over their Lifetime. I would have about 25 Radios by now! LOL

LDM 03-23-2005 07:45 PM

RE: ARF, kit, or both?
 
Good poll but very flawed , marketing data would reveal that the demographics of the age polled correlated with the influx of ARFs over the past 5 years will have a dramatice effect on the results of the Poll

piper_chuck 03-23-2005 07:47 PM

RE: ARF, kit, or both?
 
Well, isn't that special. You're welcome to start a less "flawed" poll if you wish.

piper_chuck 03-23-2005 07:49 PM

RE: ARF, kit, or both?
 

ORIGINAL: ckangaroo70

You are correct, but ARF's are basically RTF's, they are just missing an engine, radio, radio equipment, and RTF usually has a little more of the assembly done, but a RTF is basically an ARF is probally how Piper Chuck also looks at it when he started the poll. I can't hardly imagine if all someone bought was ready to Flys over their Lifetime. I would have about 25 Radios by now! LOL
Yes, I would tend to put RTF and ARF into the same category WRT this poll. I too can't imagine owning 25 cheap 4 channel transmitters. :D

Rv7garage 03-23-2005 08:02 PM

RE: ARF, kit, or both?
 
Only had ARFs, but want to build a kit....it'll cure the 2005-2006 wintertime blues.

LDM 03-23-2005 08:02 PM

RE: ARF, kit, or both?
 
chcuk dont get your feathers up , just speaking strickly from a marketing stand point , age is definitoly a factor based on the average age of the RCer , recent influx of ARFs , recent decline in Kit build value VS arfs ect , not knocking it just stating a few issues of concern , either way the world will turn another day LOL :D

piper_chuck 03-23-2005 08:10 PM

RE: ARF, kit, or both?
 
Maybe age is a factor, maybe it's not. Many of the "older" fliers I see at the field show up with few new kit planes, but lots of new ARFs.

ckangaroo70 03-23-2005 10:43 PM

RE: ARF, kit, or both?
 


ORIGINAL: LDM

Good poll but very flawed , marketing data would reveal that the demographics of the age polled correlated with the influx of ARFs over the past 5 years will have a dramatice effect on the results of the Poll
Can someone translate this for me? I'm not as intelligent as this fellow.


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