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I started with ARFs and have never built a kit
10.63%
I started with ARFs and have built one or more kits
18.13%
I started with ARFs, have built a kit, but will not build another
1.25%
I only fly kit or scratch built planes
4.38%
I started with kits, but now only fly ARFs
11.88%
I started with kits, but now fly ARFs and kits
50.63%
I started with kits, have flown ARFs, but will never fly ARFs again
3.13%
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ARF, kit, or both?

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Old 03-22-2005 | 03:03 PM
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Default ARF, kit, or both?

The idea for this poll actually came up in a thread in the kit building forum. Inquiring minds want to know.
Old 03-22-2005 | 03:34 PM
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Great Post Chuck! Your Poll covers exactly what I was inquiring to find out! Thanks.
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Default RE: ARF, kit, or both?

Maybe some of the suppliers will be interested in the results.
Old 03-22-2005 | 04:01 PM
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Kits, kits, kits.....ya gotta love'em

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Old 03-22-2005 | 04:10 PM
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yippee, I'm in thge majority for once in my life.
Old 03-22-2005 | 04:39 PM
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Looks like we are off to a good voter turnout! Some very interesting results showing up!
Old 03-22-2005 | 07:09 PM
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Yup, quite.
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Some one needs to make some 3D kits that arent FLAT or 30% and up..
Old 03-22-2005 | 07:40 PM
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this poll is great to find out what most people have done in the rc plane world but does not reflect what a lot of people want to do in the rc plane world.
I would love to build a plane, but can not because of time spent working and am forced to fly arfs, but dont get me wrong i love arfs and flying, and am grateful for arfs but probley wont have the time or space to build till i retire. and a warbird it will be[sm=pirate.gif]
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Gary,

I just finished the assembly of my first kit, but after messing around with covering, I decided to sub that part out. It was a Burrito profile and fairly simple, but I enjoyed the assembly very much. It took me about the same amount of time to get it to the Ready To Cover stage that assemblying an ARF takes. It was very gratifying but of course when I get it back from the friend that is covering it for me, I'll have an ARF.

You might want to try a profile kit, I recommend a Swany Model Product (www.swanyshouse.com) - it doesn't really take that much time - and if I can do it, anyone can.

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Old 03-22-2005 | 08:26 PM
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i more than likley will give it a try Jon, later on. i just (a little whining) work 11 hrs a day 5-6 days a week, so i just like to get home and go fly. i do have good hrs(leave the house at 400am and get home at 300pm so i have a couple of hrs to fly before i have to do my chores and go nite nite. i drive a dump truck for US
Borax out here in the mojave desert and at least have steady hrs, but i do want to build a war bird and will sometime and may take your advice.

Thanks
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52 Votes and Counting! There are a few percentages on that Poll that surpriced me, but I will wait for the Poll to run several more days before I discuss the numbers. I don't want to taint the voting process with my jabber.
Old 03-23-2005 | 09:09 AM
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your results are going to be different depending which forum the poll is in, this is the arf-rtf forum.
I would also post this in the kit-builders forum and then combine the two. it might be more accurate.
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The idea actually came from a thread in the kit forum. I posted a link to the survey in that thread.
Old 03-23-2005 | 10:53 AM
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I'm just not sure how to answer this one. I started with the Fire Baby CL in the 50s, maybe the first real ARF ever built. Then went to kits. From kits I went to scratch/plans building with A kit tossed in there every now and then. I just finished my first ARF yesterday, bought it used, can't pass on A deal like this very often. A 1/4 scale Extra. I just know that with some planes the ARF may be the better way to go so down the line I know I will have another ARF.
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I actually started with a Great Planes Bridi Trainer .40. It was originally a Kit, but it came to me allready built, so I actually classified it as an ARF when answering the Poll question because I did not actually build the Plane myself. My Second Plane was a True ARF that I assembled, and then several Kits that I built and ARFs I assembled were to follow that.
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I'm just not sure how to answer this one. I started with the Fire Baby CL in the 50s, maybe the first real ARF ever built. Then went to kits. From kits I went to scratch/plans building with A kit tossed in there every now and then. I just finished my first ARF yesterday, bought it used, can't pass on A deal like this very often. A 1/4 scale Extra. I just know that with some planes the ARF may be the better way to go so down the line I know I will have another ARF.
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you left out started out on rtf's and now fly arf's.
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Default RE: ARF, kit, or both?

You are correct, but ARF's are basically RTF's, they are just missing an engine, radio, radio equipment, and RTF usually has a little more of the assembly done, but a RTF is basically an ARF is probally how Piper Chuck also looks at it when he started the poll. I can't hardly imagine if all someone bought was ready to Flys over their Lifetime. I would have about 25 Radios by now! LOL
Old 03-23-2005 | 07:45 PM
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Good poll but very flawed , marketing data would reveal that the demographics of the age polled correlated with the influx of ARFs over the past 5 years will have a dramatice effect on the results of the Poll
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Well, isn't that special. You're welcome to start a less "flawed" poll if you wish.
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ORIGINAL: ckangaroo70

You are correct, but ARF's are basically RTF's, they are just missing an engine, radio, radio equipment, and RTF usually has a little more of the assembly done, but a RTF is basically an ARF is probally how Piper Chuck also looks at it when he started the poll. I can't hardly imagine if all someone bought was ready to Flys over their Lifetime. I would have about 25 Radios by now! LOL
Yes, I would tend to put RTF and ARF into the same category WRT this poll. I too can't imagine owning 25 cheap 4 channel transmitters.
Old 03-23-2005 | 08:02 PM
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Only had ARFs, but want to build a kit....it'll cure the 2005-2006 wintertime blues.
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chcuk dont get your feathers up , just speaking strickly from a marketing stand point , age is definitoly a factor based on the average age of the RCer , recent influx of ARFs , recent decline in Kit build value VS arfs ect , not knocking it just stating a few issues of concern , either way the world will turn another day LOL
Old 03-23-2005 | 08:10 PM
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Maybe age is a factor, maybe it's not. Many of the "older" fliers I see at the field show up with few new kit planes, but lots of new ARFs.
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ORIGINAL: LDM

Good poll but very flawed , marketing data would reveal that the demographics of the age polled correlated with the influx of ARFs over the past 5 years will have a dramatice effect on the results of the Poll
Can someone translate this for me? I'm not as intelligent as this fellow.


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