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World Models Midget Mustang
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I wanted to let the RC'ers out there to be aware a TREMENDOUS ARF! I have a World Models 60 size Midget Mustang that I have been flying for two months. This ARF had some of the best construction and hardware that I've seen from an ARF. THe entire plane is sheeted and contruction/durability is comendable. When I unboxed the plane, the first thing I noticed was that all the control surfaces were pre-hinged with quality metal hinges. All the equipment went in with no difficulty. THe only thing negative I could find was the Ail servo mounts were soft wood. I re-cut mounting blocks from basswood and fixed that.
Buld time on this plane was about 20 hours (taking your time). In my MM I put in a Saito 100, JR PCM, JR 8101 precision servos, and Futaba Gyro in the tail. This isn't a bigginer flyer! It takes some skill to fly this plane due to flight caracteristics. The plane wants to fly fast! The faster it runs, the better. With the Saito 100 I'm getting speeds around 100/110 MPH. When in higher speed flight, rates must be set low or 40% exp must be set. High torgue servos are a must for this plane. I recommend nothing less than 75oz Servos. If your flighing with a large engine, 90oz servos should be used. Flight Characteristics: Take off: Throttle up and climb slowly until you reach a good speed. Take off are smooth when level. Low speed flight... Fligh at high rates! Tip stalls will occurr especially if you bank/turn to tight Medium Speed flight: Flight is smooth, turns are precise! Be careful not to give to much Elev!. High Speed Flight: This is where she really shines!!! Simply put, This plane loves speed. High speed turns, rolls and loops are precise. When in high speed, do not give full Elev in a super tight turn. It will give you a high speed tip stall. With care though, you can perform tight pattern type turns. The Wings are VERY durable! Landing: Landings can be slightly hot if a large engine is used, flaperons help in low wind. If you have a little head wind landings are a breeze! The plane is definately a croud pleaser! If you feel the need for speed this plane fits the bill. http://www.theworldmodels.com/para/p...p?airplaneid=9 You can see photos of mine in my gallery |
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Osxpro:
You speak truth, kemosabe. I LOVED my Midget Mustang. GMS76 on a 13x8 APC with a Jtec pitts muffler. One thoroughly betchin' model. Total crowd-pleaser, with liquid-smooth maneuvers and lickety-split fly-bys. Guys coveted it, you could see it in their eyes. After three seasons of hard flying, it finally dug some serious turf when the battery connector failed (I believe), but up until then it was my favorite model, among many. I liked it so much I bought another kit right away, and will be putting it together this winter, this time with a Saito 91 in the nose. My one hint is to reinforce the landing gear wires with a rear diagonal stiffener wire, so the wheelpants don't swing back and poke the bottom skins of the wings in a stub-toe landing. Other than that one weak spot, it is a fine airplane in every way, and it has trick written all over it. Don't let a newbie try to fly it, fergawdsakes. Don. |
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I ditched the wheel pants right away! My second landing was a little rough due to a bad cross wind and yes it poked a hole in the covering. What I did do was remove the gear and bent the gear forward by 2 inches so the wheels wouldn't bow back. Works like a charm! One recommendation on the engine... Go with the Saito 100!!! that extra bit of engine makes a nice improvement. My original MM had a 91. I bumped it to a 100 and the plane flies with authority. As for "the other guys coveting it"... I know exactly what your talking about. I bring my plane in from a full throttle downsweep across the runway 5 feet off the deck (running about 110 mph) then perform a hard 180 bank midway on the runway. It's a sight and feeling you can't shake. The tail gyro makes this plane too. When I bank the plane at a 90 deg angle the plane tracks like it's on a rail. It makes you look good!
The funniest thing about this plane is I've been flying for 12 years and this is the only plane that still makes my thumbs shake. I fly quickie 500s, Giant Scale, acrobatic, etc... This plane is my first love! As for a newbie flying it... It'll be "re-kitted" faster than you can blink! You can't take your eyes off of it for 2 seconds, nor can the croud... Wouldn't have it any other way on this one! One last thing... I swear to all things good than on several of my fastest flybys (110 mph+) and 20' away from me, I've felt a small shock wave (only way to describe it) as it's flown past me. I can feel it my chest. No one believed me until I got two of the club members to stand next to me. After the fastest downwind run, they felt it too... They just kind of looked at me funny and they all said... I'll be darned.... |
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I too will swear by my Midget Mustang/Saito 100 combination. I've had mine around 6 months and love the adrenalin rush of a high speed low pass over the deck. It definitely is a charismatic plane in the air. Unfortunately, World Models just discontinued it. According to my LHS, they only have the blue color scheme in stock and when that's gone, that's it.
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What model Futaba Gyro did you install? I have this aircraft as well and have thought about using a gyro just have zero experience in an appropriate application.
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Currently I'm using a Futaba 401Y with a Futaba 9254 Ultra high speed Dig servo (A little overkill actually)... This is really a Heli gyro but it works VERY well!. I have the gain set to my Aux2 switch and usually run it with 25% gain. That seems to be the majic#. If you not familiar with a Gyro setup it's actually quite easy. You don't even need a "remote" radio function to control the gain. You can simply set the gyro to the beginner settings and off you go. Just be sure not to turn the gain up very high on the gyro as it will cause the tail to "hunt" (making it wiggle back and forth). On this plane I will SWEAR by the tail gyro as it makes this plane seem like it's flying on a rail! High spped turns are amazing! I'll come accross the runway do 100+ and bank it tight 180 deg horzontally. With the gyro I do not have to add ANY rudder and the plane doesn't drop an inch during the high attack turn.
A better choice of gyro's MIGHT be a Futaba GYA352: http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXBBE6&P=7 Dual axis Heading hold gyro that is designed for planes. I'm looking at adding one to my 1/4 scale extra for doing torque rolls. |
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ORIGINAL: skorman Unfortunately, World Models just discontinued it. According to my LHS, they only have the blue color scheme in stock and when that's gone, that's it. Did anybody else hear this rumor? d. |
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My LHS called World Models to order a yellow Midget Mustang for my friend. World Models said the MM had been discontinued and the only ones they had left were in the blue color scheme.
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My buddy ""G-Man" has his ready to maiden . Looks slick !! Running a ST G-90 w/13x6 prop.
Do you think the Little Tony would be a good choice for me if I get the urge to build a racer too since the MM is discontinued ? |
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If anything happened to my Midget Mustang, I would look at the Lil Toni or Shoestring to replace it.
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I just got back from Hong Kong and visited World Models distributor "Radar" RC. They have the MM listed in the 06 catalog... of which Airborne has not uploaded yet.
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Hmm...I hope they haven't canned the Midget Mustang. Too good of a plane.
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This model is not discontinued! It's still availible from Airborne. It's also in the World Models 06 catalog.
http://www.airborne-models.com/html/...p?ProductID=17 |
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ORIGINAL: skorman If anything happened to my Midget Mustang, I would look at the Lil Toni or Shoestring to replace it. I have both the MM and the Shoe and darn nice planes |
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I have been looking into these MM from WM, very nice looking Models indeed!
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ORIGINAL: UNBALLANCED This model is not discontinued! It's still availible from Airborne. It's also in the World Models 06 catalog. http://www.airborne-models.com/html/...p?ProductID=17 |
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That's good news for sure. All I could find was the Navy blue MM so it seemed that the rumor was true.
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I'm building a mm for formula racing. Just ordered it so I do not have it but airborne hasn't said not available. Anyway, I was curious should you fly it on high rates when flying slow? Also, I was wondering about gyros. Do you turn them off for landing? Do they pose any difficultly when just flying? I'm new to this hobby and really do not understand gyro's, but from the above posts it seems that by adding one will be an advantage in racing. Thank you Chris
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Gyro's are good period. Not just for racing. Gyros resist a change in motion that isn't directly inputted. Therefore cancelling out any unwanted change in direction. Depending on how many axis are available for a particular gyro, 1-3, and what control surface they are controlling they will definately improve how your model will fly. Though some could argue, that a good pilot can control these changes by adding extra inputs from other control surfaces himself, I'd rather have it be automatic rather than try to multi-task while looking over my shoulder! The hard part, at least for me is finding a reasonably priced and good quality gyro that will fit my application. If anyone has anything to add to this, please do!
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I fly with high rates! The catch is to make sure you have plenty of exponential programed into your control surfaces. I have 60% programmed in. You can set low rates though. You must have VERY good control & piloting skills (in my opinion) with this plane. What I mean by this is you must be able to fly with very slow & smooth movements. If your the type of pilot that "jerks" the sticks, you'll be in trouble. When I fly the MM I use SLOW stick input when traveling at high speed. Now when I hard bank this plane I will speed up the movement BUT I do it fluidly. Mind you, this is just me... I know how my plane likes to fly and I fly it that way accordingly. I have 3D planes for getting a little nuts when need be. My MM is for shear high speed & fluid flight! Loops, barrel rolls, high speed banks is where this plane shines. At 110+ MPH, you don't want "jerky & snap movements!
If you are new to flying this plane, I definately recommend flying at low rates (around 30% low rates, with 20-30% expo) at high speed. Once you've mastered this, start bumping up your rates while at the same time slowly increasing your expo. As for the gyro, I leave it on ALL THE TIME! Especially where landing is concerned, if you have any wind the gyro will assist you keeping the plane on track. While my gyro has a heading hold, I do not use that feature! That could give you trouble! My gyro simply counters any unwanted yaw. Don't let the fact that you've never used a gyro discourage you. Gyros are GREAT! Some call it cheating but I don't It's a great feature that seriously enhances the flight characteristics of this plane. I have some video clips and will try to post them in the next couple of days. |
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Hello Midget Mustang-60 is discontinued already. However, our distributor might have them in stock. Would you please let us know from which country you are writing from. Thank you.
Best Regards, The World Models Customer Service This is from them directly, I would presume the rumor is true. |
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Airborne models has plenty of blue, almost ready to cover, and plane white mustangs in stock. They have been discontinued. They do however have another shipment of yellows coming. That will be it.
Can someone give me a recommendation for a gyro/servo combination to use? I think I want to try one. Thanks |
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I'll say this, Ive had mine for abut 5 years now (really) darn nice plane and evenrebuilt it. If you can't find one, The Shoestring is everybit as good and from what I heard, that Lil Toni is also. So you have options
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Anyone put anything larger than an OS 1.08 in this plane.
OS is coming out with a 1.20 AX at about 23.oz (less muffler). Sure would like to mate that engine with my new Midget. |
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Need some guidance here. Bought a MM off of ebay from a local guy. He sold it practically ready to fly with exception of a radio system. He advertised it with an OS 61, but when I got home I was pleased to find an OS 91 under the cowling. Anyone flown this plane with this setup? Also another thing that bugs me....and maybe someone can give me a clue, but the engine isn't inline with the rest of the aircraft. The firewall is angled to the starboard side of the aircraft. I've heard of angling and engine down and to the right one degree, but this angle is highly noticeable...and I'm starting to notice this trend....I bought this MM because I want to hit the Tarmac and put off building my p-51 with a saito fa-100 because the firewall was angled the same way.....thought maybe I just bought a crappy ARF and I would have to shimmy the motor mount to adjust for the angle. Can anyone clue me into this? Is it a torque thing? I just can't see how an aircraft can fly true with the engine at such an angle.
Any comments would be appreciated! |
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