Go Back  RCU Forums > RC Helicopters > AutoGyros
 Wallis Autogyro >

Wallis Autogyro

Community
Search
Notices
AutoGyros All about autorotational flight, sport and scale autogyros! User friendly!

Wallis Autogyro

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 04-08-2005 | 03:13 PM
  #1  
floridagyro's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 511
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
From: Wimauma, FL
Default Wallis Autogyro

The Wallis actually flies. I had a 10 to 15 mph wind almost down the runway and I made two failed attempts and both times it got up about 5 feet and it would just sort of hover and I couldn't get the nose down. I just didn't seem to have enough power to penetrate the wind. A 60 size 2 stoke is recommended but I'm using a 52 4 stroke. I made a few adjustments and added more weight to the noise and the third try up it went. I have flown a lot of gyros but none like this one. Orientation was a serious problem. I made two successful flights and it's the most awsome gyro that I have ever flown. It actually flies more like a helicopter. Very fast forward speed and the fuselage pretty much stays horizontal as opposed to most gyros that fly nose high. Landing was easy. It would hover right down to the ground just like a heli and the wind certainly help. The pictures are after the flight and I will try and get some video if I can get it into the air again.

Phil
Attached Thumbnails Click image for larger version

Name:	Pn37465.jpg
Views:	369
Size:	145.3 KB
ID:	255730   Click image for larger version

Name:	Up48594.jpg
Views:	190
Size:	161.9 KB
ID:	255731   Click image for larger version

Name:	Mr39843.jpg
Views:	276
Size:	161.3 KB
ID:	255732  
Old 04-08-2005 | 03:40 PM
  #2  
Senior Member
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 469
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
From: longwood, FL
Default RE: Wallis Autogyro

Congratulations.
Apparently it's not my piloting skills as you alluded to earlier....
Old 04-08-2005 | 07:15 PM
  #3  
My Feedback: (1)
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 838
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
From: Lakeland, FL
Default RE: Wallis Autogyro

Phil,
When you settle down and get it flying, by all means get a video of it..By the way congrats are in order.. You may have to write a book on how to fly it..

I am at Sun n Fun now until the 19th.. Working around the Youth Activity area if you are in the area stop by..

Jim
Old 04-09-2005 | 07:51 AM
  #4  
floridagyro's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 511
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
From: Wimauma, FL
Default RE: Wallis Autogyro

Mickey, I agree. I think you are a good pilot but this type of control is better than the flapping blade type.

Jim, I don't think I'm ready to write the book yet! But hopefully someday.

I went back to field to try and get some video, and I did, but It's not exactly what I wanted. It was late in the afternoon, flying into the sun and I made it off the ground but the engine sagged so it was a short flight. Almost made it. I tried again but the muffler came off and went through the prop and you know what that does.

I posted the video, in MPG and Windows WMV. Here is the link:

http://www.auav.net/autogyro/videos.html

Phil
Old 04-09-2005 | 04:50 PM
  #5  
Senior Member
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 469
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
From: longwood, FL
Default RE: Wallis Autogyro

You're not gonna get any arguments from me. This kind of rotor is very stable
and very controllable.
Old 04-09-2005 | 10:09 PM
  #6  
My Feedback: (10)
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 420
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
From: Plains, GA
Default RE: Wallis Autogyro

Phil,
Thats really cool! What are you using for the head a swashplate? i saw the flybar but its hard to see the head in the pic. it kinda looks like a teethering head in the pic.
I checked out the videos. Yes i would crash it quickly! I have a hard time with my spad gyro with the wing. Flourcent organe paint on the V stab and the wing tips helps alot.
I really want to try a pusher gyro but i dont know where to begin.
Did you get plans for this gyro?


Grant
Old 04-09-2005 | 11:12 PM
  #7  
floridagyro's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 511
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
From: Wimauma, FL
Default RE: Wallis Autogyro

Hi Grant,

The autogyro is a Wallis kit made by Micro-Mold back in the 70's. I got it from Bill Friedlander at the Gyro meet here in Spring Hill. Bill got it from a fellow from England so it's been around for awhile.

The head has a swash plate with a flybar which gives it cyclic control. This is my 2nd pusher and once airborne it flies great. Getting in the air seem to be more luck than anything. I'm using a 52 4 stroke and they recommend a 60 2 stoke so I'm low on power. I suspect more power would improve my chances on takeoff.

Phil
Old 09-13-2005 | 09:44 PM
  #8  
My Feedback: (3)
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 25
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
From: Memphis, TN
Default RE: Wallis Autogyro

Phil,

Do you have any additional video of the Wallis flying?
Any extended videos and fly bys?

Thanks,
Steve
Old 09-15-2005 | 05:04 AM
  #9  
Member
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 81
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
From: tadcaster, UNITED KINGDOM
Default RE: Wallis Autogyro

EXCELLENT..WELL DONE...WHAT A MARVEL......Most impressed with the video.
I think the kit came from me or Hugh Mcmillan initially. We had two, one in the box and one we built. All we achieved, after months of effort , was a continual pitch up to about 15ft and then due to a lack of power , drag set in and a gentle descent ensued. Great to see it flying. Orientation as always with such models,Kalt Robin as well, is the main challenge once airborne. Thats why the new direct control such as PT gyro and jim baxters models are so popular and easier to orientate.
You are only the second successful wallis gyro flyer I have ever seen. That is take off and land without serious repairs!! The designer here in england demonstrated the prototype at some airshows and it was amazing.
We used to believe that just as it rotated you should throttle back slightly to reduce the violent pitch up, but power ( we are talking Merco 61 type motors here) and the limited propellor size was our downfall in the mid 1990's.
Most impressed with the landing especially with the rudder canted off 45 degrees , in the motor start position, you really are a bit of an ace. Lets see more video.
Bill Macleod
For Whopper fans see ebay item number 5999022847
By the way, I still have the original instruction manual,( before ayone asks..there was no plan) and the magazine articles and updates here in the Uk.
Old 11-27-2024 | 06:18 PM
  #10  
 
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
From: burton on trentstaffordshire, UNITED KINGDOM
Default

Originally Posted by gyronuts
EXCELLENT..WELL DONE...WHAT A MARVEL......Most impressed with the video.
I think the kit came from me or Hugh Mcmillan initially. We had two, one in the box and one we built. All we achieved, after months of effort , was a continual pitch up to about 15ft and then due to a lack of power , drag set in and a gentle descent ensued. Great to see it flying. Orientation as always with such models,Kalt Robin as well, is the main challenge once airborne. Thats why the new direct control such as PT gyro and jim baxters models are so popular and easier to orientate.
You are only the second successful wallis gyro flyer I have ever seen. That is take off and land without serious repairs!! The designer here in england demonstrated the prototype at some airshows and it was amazing.
We used to believe that just as it rotated you should throttle back slightly to reduce the violent pitch up, but power ( we are talking Merco 61 type motors here) and the limited propellor size was our downfall in the mid 1990's.
Most impressed with the landing especially with the rudder canted off 45 degrees , in the motor start position, you really are a bit of an ace. Lets see more video.
Bill Macleod
For Whopper fans see ebay item number 5999022847
By the way, I still have the original instruction manual,( before ayone asks..there was no plan) and the magazine articles and updates here in the Uk.
hi is there any chance you could send me a copy of the manual
I have just purchased one and need to set it up
Thanks
Old 11-27-2024 | 06:41 PM
  #11  
Outrider6's Avatar
Senior Member
My Feedback: (2)
 
Joined: Apr 2020
Posts: 655
Likes: 0
Received 58 Likes on 53 Posts
From: Metro Atlanta GA, USA
Default

Hopefully someone else can chime in and help you. gyronuts hasn't posted here in about 12 years.

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are On



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.