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Attn: Hobbico Elite Owners
PLEASE Actual Elite Owners:
I am getting ready to purchase one of these and I want to know if it displays the amount of charge that has been put into the pack either during the charge process or after the charge process. I want to quick charge packs and know how much has been put into them.
I am getting ready to purchase one of these and I want to know if it displays the amount of charge that has been put into the pack either during the charge process or after the charge process. I want to quick charge packs and know how much has been put into them.
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RE: Attn: Hobbico Elite Owners
I backordered one earlier this month and the estimated delivery date was "late June" a week or so ago they changed it to "Early July". Now it back to be listed as "late June". Hopefully within the next week or so we'll get them.
07-02-2004, 06:08 AM
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I just got a shipping confirmation that the Elite is on it's way. It should be here tomorrow. I'll post some pics and let you know what I think. Now I just need to get off my duff and order me an electric plane with some liths [8D]
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RE: Attn: Hobbico Elite Owners
I received confirmation and said it was going to be delivered tomorrow?
Didn't know they delivered on Saturday but we shall see.
I just need to know how much is going into the pack.
I get a lot of voltage drop with NiMH and don't want it to go down too low.
I will post as much info about the charger as I can.
Didn't know they delivered on Saturday but we shall see.
I just need to know how much is going into the pack.
I get a lot of voltage drop with NiMH and don't want it to go down too low.
I will post as much info about the charger as I can.
07-02-2004, 10:09 AM
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Rechecking the fedex tracking number now shows that I will get the Elite today! July 2nd. Very cool. indeed. I'll try to scan the manual and post it to my website.
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RE: Attn: Hobbico Elite Owners
I've scanned the manual and posted it to my website. It's not much, but I think it good enough to read. Haven't had much time to play with it. I have a few packs cycling as we speak.
http://www.windyridgerc.com/accucycle_elite/
http://www.windyridgerc.com/accucycle_elite/
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Thanks for the posting, It looks like it does keep track of the energy that has been put in the pack. That is why I wanted it.
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Thanks for scanning and posting the manual. I have one that's been shipped but didn't get it today. At least I have some reading material.
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RE: Attn: Hobbico Elite Owners
The unit clearly shows the amount of mah that is put into the cell after a charge.
I have some questions about charging that you guys may be able to help me out with. I've been using an Einstein XL which doesn't give me very much in terms of configurations. So after looking at my Elite I'm kinda overloaded with options.
I've been charging and cycling my NiCD and NiMH packs
600mah 4.8V NiCD
700mah 9.6V NiCD
1200mah 4.8V NiMH
1650mah 6V NiMH
1) What charging rates would you recommend for these packs. I know c/10 is a safe normal rate, but what if I needed to quick charge these packs. Is 1C acceptable or can I go higher? That majority of times these packs will not be completely empty so a 1C charge will be take less than 1 hour. The Elite's recommendations seem to be around C/3. I think it suggested charging my 1650 pack at 650.
2) The default cutoff voltage on the elite is 1.1V/cell. But I've read a lot of posts that indicate that 1.0V/cell might be more appropraite. I have even read to use .9V in some cases. What is your opinion on this?
3) The default discharge current is 300mA. I've seen some people suggest 500mA. Any opinions?
4) The default peak sensativity is 8mV. To be quite honest i'm not really sure where to go with this one. What should I be looking for in this area and why would I adjust it?
I have some questions about charging that you guys may be able to help me out with. I've been using an Einstein XL which doesn't give me very much in terms of configurations. So after looking at my Elite I'm kinda overloaded with options.
I've been charging and cycling my NiCD and NiMH packs
600mah 4.8V NiCD
700mah 9.6V NiCD
1200mah 4.8V NiMH
1650mah 6V NiMH
1) What charging rates would you recommend for these packs. I know c/10 is a safe normal rate, but what if I needed to quick charge these packs. Is 1C acceptable or can I go higher? That majority of times these packs will not be completely empty so a 1C charge will be take less than 1 hour. The Elite's recommendations seem to be around C/3. I think it suggested charging my 1650 pack at 650.
2) The default cutoff voltage on the elite is 1.1V/cell. But I've read a lot of posts that indicate that 1.0V/cell might be more appropraite. I have even read to use .9V in some cases. What is your opinion on this?
3) The default discharge current is 300mA. I've seen some people suggest 500mA. Any opinions?
4) The default peak sensativity is 8mV. To be quite honest i'm not really sure where to go with this one. What should I be looking for in this area and why would I adjust it?
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RE: Attn: Hobbico Elite Owners
I can't seem to get mine to measure voltage unless it is actively charging or discharging, so it appears that the current must be on. The instruction manual doesn't address it, but I'll continue to experiment with it.
coormarlin...I can only answer your second question. I know that 1.1V/cell is a common figure to determine actual flying time on a charge since some receivers may not operate effectively below that voltage. However, it seems that a lot of battery manufacturers measure capacity based on .9V/cell. So, if you want to check a new battery against the manufacture's rated capacity, use .9V/cell. But, if you want a more realistic assessment of oeprational time, use 1.1V/cell. Ultimately, it probably doesn't matter which you use to check the health of your battery as long as you're consistent. I'll leave your other questions to those more knowledgable than me.
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coormarlin...I can only answer your second question. I know that 1.1V/cell is a common figure to determine actual flying time on a charge since some receivers may not operate effectively below that voltage. However, it seems that a lot of battery manufacturers measure capacity based on .9V/cell. So, if you want to check a new battery against the manufacture's rated capacity, use .9V/cell. But, if you want a more realistic assessment of oeprational time, use 1.1V/cell. Ultimately, it probably doesn't matter which you use to check the health of your battery as long as you're consistent. I'll leave your other questions to those more knowledgable than me.
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RE: Attn: Hobbico Elite Owners
Here is you charger .pdf file. Ill leave it up till tonight. If somebody could copy and host it that would be good. 4.25 Meg 31 pages
http://home.rochester.rr.com/sar/charger.pdf
http://home.rochester.rr.com/sar/charger.pdf
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RE: Attn: Hobbico Elite Owners
I think I can answer some of these questions.
1) Sanyo and Panasonic recommends C/1 for 110% charge time.
2) I would use the working voltate and the needed current.
For me that would be 1 amp with cutoff at 1.1 volt per cell.
That is where I will be limiting my application (TX and RX)
3)I would use the current that the battery will see in your application.
For me that is 1 amp for RX and 300ma for TX
4) I can't answer and don't know what to say.
1) Sanyo and Panasonic recommends C/1 for 110% charge time.
2) I would use the working voltate and the needed current.
For me that would be 1 amp with cutoff at 1.1 volt per cell.
That is where I will be limiting my application (TX and RX)
3)I would use the current that the battery will see in your application.
For me that is 1 amp for RX and 300ma for TX
4) I can't answer and don't know what to say.
ORIGINAL: coomarlin
The unit clearly shows the amount of mah that is put into the cell after a charge.
I have some questions about charging that you guys may be able to help me out with. I've been using an Einstein XL which doesn't give me very much in terms of configurations. So after looking at my Elite I'm kinda overloaded with options.
I've been charging and cycling my NiCD and NiMH packs
600mah 4.8V NiCD
700mah 9.6V NiCD
1200mah 4.8V NiMH
1650mah 6V NiMH
1) What charging rates would you recommend for these packs. I know c/10 is a safe normal rate, but what if I needed to quick charge these packs. Is 1C acceptable or can I go higher? That majority of times these packs will not be completely empty so a 1C charge will be take less than 1 hour. The Elite's recommendations seem to be around C/3. I think it suggested charging my 1650 pack at 650.
2) The default cutoff voltage on the elite is 1.1V/cell. But I've read a lot of posts that indicate that 1.0V/cell might be more appropraite. I have even read to use .9V in some cases. What is your opinion on this?
3) The default discharge current is 300mA. I've seen some people suggest 500mA. Any opinions?
4) The default peak sensativity is 8mV. To be quite honest i'm not really sure where to go with this one. What should I be looking for in this area and why would I adjust it?
The unit clearly shows the amount of mah that is put into the cell after a charge.
I have some questions about charging that you guys may be able to help me out with. I've been using an Einstein XL which doesn't give me very much in terms of configurations. So after looking at my Elite I'm kinda overloaded with options.
I've been charging and cycling my NiCD and NiMH packs
600mah 4.8V NiCD
700mah 9.6V NiCD
1200mah 4.8V NiMH
1650mah 6V NiMH
1) What charging rates would you recommend for these packs. I know c/10 is a safe normal rate, but what if I needed to quick charge these packs. Is 1C acceptable or can I go higher? That majority of times these packs will not be completely empty so a 1C charge will be take less than 1 hour. The Elite's recommendations seem to be around C/3. I think it suggested charging my 1650 pack at 650.
2) The default cutoff voltage on the elite is 1.1V/cell. But I've read a lot of posts that indicate that 1.0V/cell might be more appropraite. I have even read to use .9V in some cases. What is your opinion on this?
3) The default discharge current is 300mA. I've seen some people suggest 500mA. Any opinions?
4) The default peak sensativity is 8mV. To be quite honest i'm not really sure where to go with this one. What should I be looking for in this area and why would I adjust it?
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Here is you charger .pdf file. Ill leave it up till tonight. If somebody could copy and host it that would be good. 4.25 Meg 31 pages
http://home.rochester.rr.com/sar/charger.pdf
Here is you charger .pdf file. Ill leave it up till tonight. If somebody could copy and host it that would be good. 4.25 Meg 31 pages
http://home.rochester.rr.com/sar/charger.pdf
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I think I can answer some of these questions.
1) Sanyo and Panasonic recommends C/1 for 110% charge time.
2) I would use the working voltate and the needed current.
For me that would be 1 amp with cutoff at 1.1 volt per cell.
That is where I will be limiting my application (TX and RX)
3)I would use the current that the battery will see in your application.
For me that is 1 amp for RX and 300ma for TX
4) I can't answer and don't know what to say.
I think I can answer some of these questions.
1) Sanyo and Panasonic recommends C/1 for 110% charge time.
2) I would use the working voltate and the needed current.
For me that would be 1 amp with cutoff at 1.1 volt per cell.
That is where I will be limiting my application (TX and RX)
3)I would use the current that the battery will see in your application.
For me that is 1 amp for RX and 300ma for TX
4) I can't answer and don't know what to say.
ORIGINAL: coomarlin
The unit clearly shows the amount of mah that is put into the cell after a charge.
I have some questions about charging that you guys may be able to help me out with. I've been using an Einstein XL which doesn't give me very much in terms of configurations. So after looking at my Elite I'm kinda overloaded with options.
I've been charging and cycling my NiCD and NiMH packs
600mah 4.8V NiCD
700mah 9.6V NiCD
1200mah 4.8V NiMH
1650mah 6V NiMH
1) What charging rates would you recommend for these packs. I know c/10 is a safe normal rate, but what if I needed to quick charge these packs. Is 1C acceptable or can I go higher? That majority of times these packs will not be completely empty so a 1C charge will be take less than 1 hour. The Elite's recommendations seem to be around C/3. I think it suggested charging my 1650 pack at 650.
2) The default cutoff voltage on the elite is 1.1V/cell. But I've read a lot of posts that indicate that 1.0V/cell might be more appropraite. I have even read to use .9V in some cases. What is your opinion on this?
3) The default discharge current is 300mA. I've seen some people suggest 500mA. Any opinions?
4) The default peak sensativity is 8mV. To be quite honest i'm not really sure where to go with this one. What should I be looking for in this area and why would I adjust it?
The unit clearly shows the amount of mah that is put into the cell after a charge.
I have some questions about charging that you guys may be able to help me out with. I've been using an Einstein XL which doesn't give me very much in terms of configurations. So after looking at my Elite I'm kinda overloaded with options.
I've been charging and cycling my NiCD and NiMH packs
600mah 4.8V NiCD
700mah 9.6V NiCD
1200mah 4.8V NiMH
1650mah 6V NiMH
1) What charging rates would you recommend for these packs. I know c/10 is a safe normal rate, but what if I needed to quick charge these packs. Is 1C acceptable or can I go higher? That majority of times these packs will not be completely empty so a 1C charge will be take less than 1 hour. The Elite's recommendations seem to be around C/3. I think it suggested charging my 1650 pack at 650.
2) The default cutoff voltage on the elite is 1.1V/cell. But I've read a lot of posts that indicate that 1.0V/cell might be more appropraite. I have even read to use .9V in some cases. What is your opinion on this?
3) The default discharge current is 300mA. I've seen some people suggest 500mA. Any opinions?
4) The default peak sensativity is 8mV. To be quite honest i'm not really sure where to go with this one. What should I be looking for in this area and why would I adjust it?
Also does the RX really draw 1A? Is it that much higher than the TX?
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RE: Attn: Hobbico Elite Owners
I went back to both Panasonic and Sanyo website and they have changed rapid charging to 1C with a specific temp and voltage for cutoff. No longer do that specify C at a particualr time. This is the second time they have changed it in two years!
AS far as your second question. My RX only draws 10ma but the servos draw about 1 amp average. (6-12 minute flights on a charge). The TX has been timed at 5.5 hours until it beeps (Futaba 9C) using a 1650 pack.
The new sanyo specs not tell you how to set the trickle charge for the NiCad cells. C/50-C/20
I need to update my site to reflect these new changes.
AS far as your second question. My RX only draws 10ma but the servos draw about 1 amp average. (6-12 minute flights on a charge). The TX has been timed at 5.5 hours until it beeps (Futaba 9C) using a 1650 pack.
The new sanyo specs not tell you how to set the trickle charge for the NiCad cells. C/50-C/20
I need to update my site to reflect these new changes.
ORIGINAL: coomarlin
Geist what do you mean by 110% charge time?
Also does the RX really draw 1A? Is it that much higher than the TX?
ORIGINAL: Geistware
I think I can answer some of these questions.
1) Sanyo and Panasonic recommends C/1 for 110% charge time.
2) I would use the working voltate and the needed current.
For me that would be 1 amp with cutoff at 1.1 volt per cell.
That is where I will be limiting my application (TX and RX)
3)I would use the current that the battery will see in your application.
For me that is 1 amp for RX and 300ma for TX
4) I can't answer and don't know what to say.
I think I can answer some of these questions.
1) Sanyo and Panasonic recommends C/1 for 110% charge time.
2) I would use the working voltate and the needed current.
For me that would be 1 amp with cutoff at 1.1 volt per cell.
That is where I will be limiting my application (TX and RX)
3)I would use the current that the battery will see in your application.
For me that is 1 amp for RX and 300ma for TX
4) I can't answer and don't know what to say.
ORIGINAL: coomarlin
The unit clearly shows the amount of mah that is put into the cell after a charge.
I have some questions about charging that you guys may be able to help me out with. I've been using an Einstein XL which doesn't give me very much in terms of configurations. So after looking at my Elite I'm kinda overloaded with options.
I've been charging and cycling my NiCD and NiMH packs
600mah 4.8V NiCD
700mah 9.6V NiCD
1200mah 4.8V NiMH
1650mah 6V NiMH
1) What charging rates would you recommend for these packs. I know c/10 is a safe normal rate, but what if I needed to quick charge these packs. Is 1C acceptable or can I go higher? That majority of times these packs will not be completely empty so a 1C charge will be take less than 1 hour. The Elite's recommendations seem to be around C/3. I think it suggested charging my 1650 pack at 650.
2) The default cutoff voltage on the elite is 1.1V/cell. But I've read a lot of posts that indicate that 1.0V/cell might be more appropraite. I have even read to use .9V in some cases. What is your opinion on this?
3) The default discharge current is 300mA. I've seen some people suggest 500mA. Any opinions?
4) The default peak sensativity is 8mV. To be quite honest i'm not really sure where to go with this one. What should I be looking for in this area and why would I adjust it?
The unit clearly shows the amount of mah that is put into the cell after a charge.
I have some questions about charging that you guys may be able to help me out with. I've been using an Einstein XL which doesn't give me very much in terms of configurations. So after looking at my Elite I'm kinda overloaded with options.
I've been charging and cycling my NiCD and NiMH packs
600mah 4.8V NiCD
700mah 9.6V NiCD
1200mah 4.8V NiMH
1650mah 6V NiMH
1) What charging rates would you recommend for these packs. I know c/10 is a safe normal rate, but what if I needed to quick charge these packs. Is 1C acceptable or can I go higher? That majority of times these packs will not be completely empty so a 1C charge will be take less than 1 hour. The Elite's recommendations seem to be around C/3. I think it suggested charging my 1650 pack at 650.
2) The default cutoff voltage on the elite is 1.1V/cell. But I've read a lot of posts that indicate that 1.0V/cell might be more appropraite. I have even read to use .9V in some cases. What is your opinion on this?
3) The default discharge current is 300mA. I've seen some people suggest 500mA. Any opinions?
4) The default peak sensativity is 8mV. To be quite honest i'm not really sure where to go with this one. What should I be looking for in this area and why would I adjust it?
Also does the RX really draw 1A? Is it that much higher than the TX?
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Hey Geist. What would you recommend? Say for instance say I've flown 3 or 4 flights with my 9.6V TX 700mah pack. The voltage is down around 9.8V on the TX. I want to top them back off before I go flying again. What charge settings would you recommend? I could set them at 1C and they would be charged fairly quickly, but would it be better for my packs if I just set them up at C/2 or something more conservative? Is it smart to fast charge if you really don't need to?
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I would charge it at 300ma, so between .2 and .4a
Remember that low voltage is 8.8 volts so you have a lot left.
Remember that low voltage is 8.8 volts so you have a lot left.
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Just a guess here: I suspect that Hobbico didn't publish the manual on their website prior to shipment due to the fact that both ports cannot use a different memory location at the same time. In the manual it states that if the batteries are not the same, then one can be charged from a memory location, and the other must be set manually each time.
Just a guess...
Just a guess...