Besides the AMR trainers, are there any other gas-powered trainers out there?

I have never seen this one in person and I don;t know anything about it but it might be worth a look:

http://www.maxfordusa.com/mentor-g26cctrainer.aspx

Here's one made in Little Rock, Arkansas.

Wing: 101"
length 85"
weight 22 lb
engine: 28 to 35cc gasoline
fults nose gear
construction plywood / balsa

Call Mark for pricing 501-296-9956

I have one and it is a great flying plane! Actually made as a platform for photography.

Happy Landings

How about a senior telemaster

http://www.bridiairplanes.com/hangar/bigbee.html


Joe Bridi's clasic Big Bee would is great airplane for a large primary trainer I have flown several of these, of course they are a kit.

Another great option would be Bruce Tharp Engineering Giant Flying King the 12 foot version. Have not flown this one but have the standard flying king and it will serve as a fine giant primary trainer.

yet another possibility is as mentioned above the Telemaster but not the standard Senior Telemaster but the Giant Telemaster also 12 foot span. This also would serve verfy well as a large primary trainer.

I beleve all the above are kits however and you need to check for avalibility as smaller suppliers seem to be dropping like flies.

John

I'm surprised there isn't one available in the states. Here there is and ARF trainer for gas (20-50cc) but I'm sure buying it here (Taiwan) and shipping it would be crazy. But it is made in China and probably available through some of those people that bring in china ARFs in the states (raiden tech, chief). They are great trainers because they are so easy to see and they fly ever so slow, take a lot of punishment and just keep on ticking!

For whats its worth while its true larger airplanes are easier to see at the same distances you may fly a smaller airplane however in primary training one of the most common mistakes is to fly too far out to maintain orientation.

What happens when one tends to fly to far out with a smaller airplane and he starts flying larger aircraft that he can see better he will now fly to far out once agine, to maintain orientation

John

while that's true, it takes a lot longer for a large plane to get to that point than a small plane. small planes get out of sight fast! i remember letting a friend fly my easy star. she flew it so far out and lost it in the sun. i literally ran toward where she thought she saw it last until i could see it again. since the speed of planes do not necessarily go up with their size, flying larger planes give a student a little more time to react to a situation.

i still remember one time at the flying field in hong kong. i saw one guy looking left and looking right, up and down after a plane had crashed spectacularly. i asked if something was wrong. he had lost his plane. that one second distraction, a rookie mistake, cost him an airplane and may have caused injury when it inevitably crashed. it was a funny sight to see him pondering the fortune of his plane. on the other hand, it would've been better had he yelled "i lost my plane" so that we could all help in finding the plane and taking cover if need be.

How about this?

http://www.btemodels.com/flyin_king.html

Or this

http://www.btemodels.com/sfk.html

The Flying King is out of stock as of this writing and the other is a tail dragger which some don't like for a first trainer, but some do.

There are several available from TowerHobbies. I am training on the Hobbico SuperStar right now.

i think you're confusing gas with glow! :-)

I thought one of the basic ideas of having a trainer was reasonable cost to get into the hobby.

Any of these large gasoline powered aircraft are probably way more in cost than a normal, or what we would all a normal, glow powered trainer.

Of course, if cost is no object, well, that's one thing, but then it's tough to explain that to the poor shmuck that has to pick up the pieces of his $800 "trainer" after making a basic (note that word) training mistake.

CGr.

I could see where a person (experienced flyer) might want a gas engine in a trainer to involve new folks to the hobby. Looking at it from time in the air and visibility, a large gas trainer would be easy on fuel and easier for a new person to see. Also, some folks like the way a simple high wing plane flies and some of us just like gas planes in general!!

I would love to have a gas trainer.. I have lots of people that want to go out with me and learn or just see if its something they could get into. Most of my stuff is gas now and I really dont want to go back to nitro. That and I've been wanting a high wing plane to float around the sky every once in a while.

Ravenrc has an 84in 26cc ARF trainer for $220. $400 with engine combo. Called Eagle . Also Cermark or Abell has one called Mentor about the same. Raven's is a 2 piece fuselage for easy transport.