Winter build
11-27-2010 | 10:39 PM
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The predecessor to the LA was the FP which I always thought was a little better engine.Anyway I had a 40FP in a Goldberg trainer for over 15 years. I could not begin to tell you the number of hours or people who flew that plane. It was used day in day out as a trainer, intro flight plane and all around 'can my kid try that plane'. It had been beat so much that a 5 1/4 plane grew to 6 1/2 pounds over its life. The engine always started. It had a dead stick maybe every 2or 3 years.3 years ago I gave it to an 11 year old who wanted to fly.Once he learned he put floats on it, made it even heaver, and flew it this summer off of water. Figuring that someday it may need a new liner and piston I also gave him those parts just in case. He has not needed them. And I still have at least 3 FP's in planes I still have that are equally old and have never been rebuilt. So there is not a thing wrong with going the less expensive route, just as going the more expensive route is fine. But for anyone to try to claim the LA is not a good choice well that's just silly. It will do exactly what you are looking for. I like OS engines, I also have Saito's, Evolutions and Magnum. Heck I still have my fathers Baby Cyclone from the 1930 that still runs. I advise all prospective pilots to not worry about buying their trainers engine with a view to the future. Get what you need and save your money for fuel. Learn how to fly well and let the future unfold as it does.
11-27-2010 | 11:22 PM
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The predecessor to the LA was the FP which I always thought was a little better engine. Anyway I had a 40FP in a Goldberg trainer for over 15 years. I could not begin to tell you the number of hours or people who flew that plane. It was used day in day out as a trainer, intro flight plane and all around 'can my kid try that plane'. It had been beat so much that a 5 1/4 plane grew to 6 1/2 pounds over its life. The engine always started. It had a dead stick maybe every 2or 3 years. 3 years ago I gave it to an 11 year old who wanted to fly. Once he learned he put floats on it, made it even heaver, and flew it this summer off of water. Figuring that someday it may need a new liner and piston I also gave him those parts just in case. He has not needed them. And I still have at least 3 FP's in planes I still have that are equally old and have never been rebuilt. So there is not a thing wrong with going the less expensive route, just as going the more expensive route is fine. But for anyone to try to claim the LA is not a good choice well that's just silly. It will do exactly what you are looking for. I like OS engines, I also have Saito's, Evolutions and Magnum. Heck I still have my fathers Baby Cyclone from the 1930 that still runs. I advise all prospective pilots to not worry about buying their trainers engine with a view to the future. Get what you need and save your money for fuel. Learn how to fly well and let the future unfold as it does.
The predecessor to the LA was the FP which I always thought was a little better engine. Anyway I had a 40FP in a Goldberg trainer for over 15 years. I could not begin to tell you the number of hours or people who flew that plane. It was used day in day out as a trainer, intro flight plane and all around 'can my kid try that plane'. It had been beat so much that a 5 1/4 plane grew to 6 1/2 pounds over its life. The engine always started. It had a dead stick maybe every 2or 3 years. 3 years ago I gave it to an 11 year old who wanted to fly. Once he learned he put floats on it, made it even heaver, and flew it this summer off of water. Figuring that someday it may need a new liner and piston I also gave him those parts just in case. He has not needed them. And I still have at least 3 FP's in planes I still have that are equally old and have never been rebuilt. So there is not a thing wrong with going the less expensive route, just as going the more expensive route is fine. But for anyone to try to claim the LA is not a good choice well that's just silly. It will do exactly what you are looking for. I like OS engines, I also have Saito's, Evolutions and Magnum. Heck I still have my fathers Baby Cyclone from the 1930 that still runs. I advise all prospective pilots to not worry about buying their trainers engine with a view to the future. Get what you need and save your money for fuel. Learn how to fly well and let the future unfold as it does.
11-28-2010 | 12:05 AM
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I also have several Evolution 46's and they are not even close in power to an OS 65LA. They won't swing as big a prop as the 65 nor can they swing that bigger prop as fast as the LA.
I also have several Evolution 46's and they are not even close in power to an OS 65LA. They won't swing as big a prop as the 65 nor can they swing that bigger prop as fast as the LA.
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The OP appears to be looking for an economical Engine to fly a trainer. So unless he is building something other than a 40 size trainer all he needs is a OS 46LA. It is inexpensive, simple to use, will outlast his trainer unless it is destroyed in a crash and if it is he is not out as much money and can start again since he saved money on this first engine.
The OP appears to be looking for an economical Engine to fly a trainer. So unless he is building something other than a 40 size trainer all he needs is a OS 46LA. It is inexpensive, simple to use, will outlast his trainer unless it is destroyed in a crash and if it is he is not out as much money and can start again since he saved money on this first engine.
11-28-2010 | 02:26 PM
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I know os is a good company to go with but I was also interested in tt brand, for this trainer I was looking at the pro 46. Any word on the general quality of tt engines both 2 and 4 stroke. The reason I ask is it will be cheaper on my smaller budget.
11-28-2010 | 07:09 PM
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From: McChord AFB / Orting,
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<span style="font-family: Comic Sans MS">so what's up with towerhobbies motors? i'm looking at the .60ish or .75 range for my next projectGP 300 extra .60 size (the .75 being 109.00)? not that i'm looking to buy this one, but the bang for the buck, how's come noone ever talks about their motors? i only knew one guy to buy one and the only thing he had a problem with was the muffler can kept coming loose. that was their .46, and the thing was a screamer. so how are they?</span>
11-30-2010 | 01:57 PM
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I know os is a good company to go with but I was also interested in tt brand, for this trainer I was looking at the pro 46. Any word on the general quality of tt engines both 2 and 4 stroke. The reason I ask is it will be cheaper on my smaller budget.
I know os is a good company to go with but I was also interested in tt brand, for this trainer I was looking at the pro 46. Any word on the general quality of tt engines both 2 and 4 stroke. The reason I ask is it will be cheaper on my smaller budget.
You shouldn't have any problems with the TT pro 46 if you go that route.
? onTT 4 stroke lineup-forget it.JMHO
11-30-2010 | 02:05 PM
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Frenchie, thankyou for your words of wisdom. After talking with my LHS, I will be going the pro 46 route. They are selling the engine for 107 and the 42 for 82. I will spend the extra 25 for the better carb and track record for the 46. I suppose once I learn the basics of running a nitro engine, then I can make more educated decisions then what I can now.
For four strokes, are OS and Saito the cream of the crop or is it just advertising that makes them sound that way.
For four strokes, are OS and Saito the cream of the crop or is it just advertising that makes them sound that way.
11-30-2010 | 02:28 PM
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[quote]ORIGINAL: frenchie79
The Pro 46 is the only one I've seen run decent. Very comparable to the OS 46. Seen problems with the 61, air leaking around the bearing and service company unwilling to fix. Felt sorry for the new flier. I let him use a Tower 61 i had new in the box. (Still have it if your interested, 46 AX's also)
Well, our club puts on club 40 racing and all of the engines involved are TT Pro 40's, which are the legal engine for this event, and they all run very very good.
12-01-2010 | 07:36 AM
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RE: Winter build
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Frenchie, thankyou for your words of wisdom. After talking with my LHS, I will be going the pro 46 route. They are selling the engine for 107 and the 42 for 82. I will spend the extra 25 for the better carb and track record for the 46. I suppose once I learn the basics of running a nitro engine, then I can make more educated decisions then what I can now.
For four strokes, are OS and Saito the cream of the crop or is it just advertising that makes them sound that way.
Frenchie, thankyou for your words of wisdom. After talking with my LHS, I will be going the pro 46 route. They are selling the engine for 107 and the 42 for 82. I will spend the extra 25 for the better carb and track record for the 46. I suppose once I learn the basics of running a nitro engine, then I can make more educated decisions then what I can now.
For four strokes, are OS and Saito the cream of the crop or is it just advertising that makes them sound that way.
12-01-2010 | 08:55 AM
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Thunder Tiger engines, rock. I have a .40 Pro and it screams. It seems that it really woke up after a few gallons of fuel in it as well. I put it on my Ultra Sport .40 with the intention of replacing it with a OS .55AX. But it pulls the US around so well, that I still have the .55 sitting in a box. Do I have unlimited vertical? Nope, but plenty enough power for what I want to do. It'll be great on your trainer and serve you a long long time after that.
Good choice on the .46 Pro.
Good choice on the .46 Pro.
12-01-2010 | 11:23 AM
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Call me nuts, but I picked up an Aviastar .46 from my LHS to fiddle around with because it was cheap and I like fiddling with new engines. They had a needle problem with um for a while, wrong one installed from what I understand, but those problems were reportedly resolved. I stuck it on a .40 trainer and loved that engine, ran like a clock, ran strong, tuned easy and never dead sticked. The airframe apparently liked it so much it decided it wanted some alone time with the engine and flew away. Oh by the way, buy a good Rx battery charger and always test the battery before flight....even if you just took it off of the charger 30 minutes ago. My fault, I know, on a side note... anyone want a free piece of **** Onyx charger?, makes a good door stop, not good for much else. Seems to charge stick packs for my sons RC truck just fine, but nothing else. Aviastar .46 is $49.99 at Sigmfg.com, just a low cost option. I bought a Magnum .46 when i replaced the airframe and hate it, the carb is a piece of crap, you shouldn't have to use plumbers tape on a brand new low speed needle because the natural action of the throttle turns the needle all the way in.
12-02-2010 | 04:48 PM
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RE: Winter build
I have both the TT .46 pro and the Evolution trainer .45 that came on my Alpha 40 (RIP). I love the TT .46. It is dependable, and easy to start. The Evolution can be a little harder to start, but it is also a reliable engine. I've never removed the limiters, as has been suggested, and I've never really had a problem. If I had to choose, I would but a Thunder Tiger engine over any other brand, but thats my opinion, I have only been in this hobby for three years so I don't have as much experience as some of the people who have responded to this post.
