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Old 08-07-2003 | 02:21 PM
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Hi im getting ready to buy a second airplane and i dont know what to get. Im thinking about the Ultra Stick 60 with a saito 100 engine on it. Any suggestions
Old 08-07-2003 | 02:25 PM
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Are you looking for an ARF or Kit?

And what are you flying now, and how good are you?
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Im flying the avistar 40 and I soloed a few days ago.
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Whats the rush???
Old 08-07-2003 | 09:42 PM
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the ultra stick or big stick as tail draggers are the way to go
Old 08-08-2003 | 01:23 AM
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Buy something you can afford to crash and lose. The odds of you crashing or damaging that second plane is pretty good right after solo.

Having said that, a stik type plane or a SPADstik will be good choices. Hell, there's nothing uglier than a stick, and a crash can only improves it's looks.
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Originally posted by Pjtg0707
Hell, there's nothing uglier than a stick, and a crash can only improves it's looks.
lol yeah, it might be ugly but it flys so smooth and nice who cares about the look right
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what are you looking for, acrobatic, scale, etc?
Old 08-08-2003 | 02:19 AM
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Try this link and look at 4 choices.
http://www.geistware.com/rcmodeling/second_plane.htm
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geistware your website is awsome i enjoyed reading the fuel articles, thanks for all the info, didnt realize it was your website at first
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Through all the postings and a bit of hobby shop recon I have come to the following as possibilities for a second plane for me. These have al been mentioned numorus times. Anyone have a comparison between them instead of they all are good second planes?

Sig four star
Tiger 2
Easy sport
some stick plane (Ultra seems good)

Thanks for the feedback. I am currently flying a Sig Kadet LT-40 if that helps.

Tedd
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I have a Great Planes Big Stick with OS 70 II that I converted to a tail dragger and it is working out very well as a second plane. Give yourself a hundred more flights on the Avistar and it will be a good next plane. Flies very well and holds altitude at about 1/10th throttle. Open it up and set the rates high and it is all I need to tear up the sky. Looks and sounds good in the air, too.

Just be careful on the last turn for approach the first few times. It doesn't know how to level itself out like a trainer.
Old 08-08-2003 | 02:28 PM
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joshrk22,

IF you fly your avistar UNTIL you can do anything comfortably then you will have many more options available to you for a 2nd plane. If you don't your third plane might be another Avistar!!!

I agree with wildnlose whats the rush the avistar has much to teach you
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I agree the Avistar has much to teach you. A good next plane is Great Planes Super Sportster ARF or kit form if you prefer building. I have one with a TT .46Pro. This plane moves very well and does some nice aerobatics yet slows down well and is easy to land.

Only complaint was a broken internal landing gear block due to rough field conditions. A couple of e-mails back and forth to Great Planes and they sent me a new wing kit. A fun plane from a great company.
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i agree too, fly your plane you have now until it becomes boring, then get a second. I am going to be getting a Sig 4*40 as my second this winter
Old 08-08-2003 | 03:22 PM
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a very docile tail dragger/ low wing i haven't seen metioned are the Cloud Dancer by Fred Reese. I have one of these that I am actually learning on. Shouldn't be a problem as a second plane, especially with some experienced help. Also has a retract option depending on your field.
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Originally posted by TWONeill
I agree the Avistar has much to teach you. A good next plane is Great Planes Super Sportster ARF or kit form if you prefer building. I have one with a TT .46Pro. This plane moves very well and does some nice aerobatics yet slows down well and is easy to land.

Only complaint was a broken internal landing gear block due to rough field conditions. A couple of e-mails back and forth to Great Planes and they sent me a new wing kit. A fun plane from a great company.

I second the vote for the GP SS .40 for your second plane.
Lands fast though. It was properly more difficult to land and
as a result, improved my stick discipline to a point where
landing my third plane: GP Cap 232 .40 kit -with a 91 FS. was
almost a joke in comparison. I maidened the cap two days ago and the first landing was a three point greaser.
I credit that all to practice (and comfort level) with my second
plane.

So, choose carefully.

Shane
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Originally posted by joshrk22
Hi im getting ready to buy a second airplane and i dont know what to get. Im thinking about the Ultra Stick 60 with a saito 100 engine on it. Any suggestions

Further- if you're confident and good on the sticks, don't waste
your time or money on a bunch of sophomore aircraft because
"you're supposed to follow the beaten path".

I'm probably biased against the sticks not for their performance,
they fly great, but because of their looks. They just don't look like real airplanes enough for me. IMHO.

An old timer at my field told me to ask myself where I want to go
in this hobby and work my way up to it according to my flight
skill and confidence. My Cap flies like a dream. I built her light
and put a huge engine on the front.

I solo'd on my second flight five months ago and ever since so
the old timers here will probably bash my (over?)-confidence.
And, I'll probably deserve it.

Your second plane won't be as hard to master as you may think.
Just make sure you like how the plane looks and will perform
base on your engine choice.
Old 08-09-2003 | 01:47 AM
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i see your mistake already, overpowering planes. its a bad idea, reason is because of weight big engine on front= weight in the tail. the heavier your plane the worse the crashes the worse flight performence, so if a plane calls for a .40 then it needs a .46. best thing to do is to just stay in plane engine specs( sorry for taking the thread of topic, but this needed to be addressed)

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