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Old 02-17-2011 | 08:54 PM
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havent been on here in a while. i used to fly electric rc planes,and small glow powered planes, rc converted guillows planes ect.. last june i had purchased a used Hobbico Nexstar 46,
flew it 3 times, landing was a little hard for me. the model would fly great, but when i landed ,itd act as if it was tail heavy. i also had a good sized Kysoho P-51 mustang that i bought from a member here.i never did fly it, i got it about 90%built, all that i had to do was trim the cowl and install the reciever,battery pack,glue on the canopy and install a retract servo.
i ended up doing a trade plush cash on that plane. at the time i didnt have any where to keep the planes,theyd have to be moved every day, it was just a bad time to get in to flying back then.

now i think is a better time, im trying to get rid of all my nitro Rc cars and trucks / gear to pay for nitro plane stuff. a local guy emailed me a told me about a jeff troy "tame Cat" 40 he has that he's willing to sell, it has a os47 i believe, not sure if it has any radio gear, not even sure if its built, or unbuilt. still waiting for a reply.
i was watching a lot of videos on the tame cat, it looks pretty good. in video comments,i read that its a good trainer.

my question is , what is your guys comments on this plane, and what would be a reasonable price for this plane?

before i attempt to fly any thing again, im going to get a flight sim to practice on for a while, i had a sim , but it sold it a few months ago. i realy need to practice on my landing skills .
Old 02-18-2011 | 12:23 AM
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If I already had some flying ability and was only going to have one plane it would have to be an ugly stick. At your flying skill level this could be a nice way to go.
There are free plans downloadable and this would be an easy build. The plan I posted is just one example but any them could be made from foam board just as easily.
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Old 02-18-2011 | 02:42 AM
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You should try to find a local club, or at least an experienced pilot, and get some assistance. Put your zip code in the search box at http://www.modelaircraft.org/clubsearch.aspx to see if there are any nearby clubs.
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I dunno.. I, for one, like to recommend traditional trainers to learn on.. even re-learn on. That "tame cat 40" is a pretty neat looking plane, and it says it's a trainer, but I put that in the same category as that PTS P51 Mustang that some talk about. They are pretty, but they are not real trainers. Ok... don't all pounce on me all at once now.. I'm offering my opinion and that's all.

I started with a Tower Trainer 40 and later, after on-off-on training sessions, switched over to a Nexstar Select RTF. It didn't take me long to solo with that plane, well, how long is long.. well, flying three flights a day with an instructor on a buddy box, about once a week was all I could do at the time becaus that was all the time I could devote to flying RC. It took me about two months of this sort of flying to solo, although the instructor told me I could have solo'ed much earlier.

Aaaaaanyway, you (the OP) said you had a Nexstar and it gave you trouble with the landing. Well, you never said you were doing this alone or not, but I suspect you were. If you had an instructor to work with, the very first thing he/she would have done is to check the plane to see that it was set up properly, then maiden it for you to get the trims right so that the plane flew great and landed like it was supposed to.

If you intend to do it alone again, highly discouraged by me and others, well that tame-cat 40 will be no different than the Nexstar was. It needs to be set up properly and trimmed for straight and level flight with hands off, at about mid throttle, and then you can go from there. But, this is probably best to be left to an instructor or an experienced pilot because there are some subtle parts of flying that plane that he/she will see and be able to point out before you attempt to fly it yourself.

Anyway, no matter what you do, best of luck with it.

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Old 02-18-2011 | 06:09 AM
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I own the Airborne Models version of the"Jeff Troy Tamecat Trainer" and a
beginners trainer it is not, it is more of an advanced beginners trainer,
even with the throws listed in the assembly manual, this thing is quick
and doesn't allow any time for error. Sure it is a really neat looking
plane but this thing is a rocket ship @ full throttle, mine orignially had
a GMS 47 in it but I have since downgraded to a GMS 40. One of the
hardest things that I find with the plane is that being grey in color, it
is very hard to see at a distance, especially when lining up for a landing
approach.

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Old 02-18-2011 | 06:14 AM
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+1 to what CGR said!

A club is a wonderful thing to have and they can do so much to help you along the way. Plus a club is a great way for fellowship and even when my planes were grounded for one reason or another I would still be at the field just to have a good time.

Set up is very important on a plane! I learn more and more every time I talk to people about set up.
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im talking with an experiecned pilot, he's a member here at RCU, though i dont know his user name!
the plan for now is, skip the tame cat. he told me about a trainer plane at tower hobbies , its $109 , it did have free shipping till yesterday.
its a ARF hobbico Avistar 46 i think. i have a new OS46 FX that i can use in it. ill be purchasing a used high wing electric trainer for a good price.
in trade ill be doing soon, ill be getting 4 servos ,reciever and radio from my old hobbico nexstar , ill end up using that radio and servos in the used high wing trainer plane to get my practicing now. the experienced pilot also has a buddy box, so when i take up the electric trainer ,if i have any problems the experienced pilot can take over.
gonna start on the electric trainer ,then move up to the gas high wing trainer,once i master the high wing trainer , id like to try out the low wing trainer and eventually be learn to fly warbirds. but first step is mastering that electric high wing trainer!

the things i need to work on is lining up the plane for landing , and actually landing it. when i flew my nexstar, i was alone and the only experience before that was flying smaller 3 channel planes. i told the experienced pilot about the times i flew my nexstar, apparently it wasnt balanced properly, and i was real luck to have not crashed on landing or take off.
so now , im just gonna listen to the veterans and take advice that is given, i dont feel like waisting money, or build time on planes because i wanna go with what i "Think"is rite.

rite now im looking for a good 2.4Ghz radio, trying to find a G3.5 flight sim to work on the landing / approach , another thing is, im going to buy brand new Reciever batteries and a meter.
not gonna go cheap there, i have read lots of stories about crashes due to reciever battery failure.

hopefully if i listen and take advice, things should go well ,and hopefully i wont come home with a box of fire wood that resembles an airplane.
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i told the experienced pilot about the times i flew my nexstar, apparently it wasnt balanced properly, and i was real luck to have not crashed on landing or take off.
This is my point. The experienced pilot would have checked that before you got it in the air and had the problems with it that you did. A Nexstar, set up properly, should almost land itself.

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Old 02-19-2011 | 08:41 AM
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im talking with an experiecned pilot, he's a member here at RCU , though i dont know his user name!
the plan for now is, skip the tame cat. he told me about a trainer plane at tower hobbies , its $109 , it did have free shipping till yesterday.
its a ARF hobbico Avistar 46 i think.
hopefully if i listen and take advice, things should go well ,and hopefully i wont come home with a box of fire wood that resembles an airplane.
Working with this person should save you lots of money and frustration.

You can get free shipping on the Avistar every day at http://www3.omnimodels.com/cgi-bin/w...I=HCAA2016&P=0
You'll notice the Omni site looks a lot like Tower Hobbies. That's because both are part of the same bigger company. Omni has free shipping at 100, and few discount codes, where Tower has lots of discount codes and the 'super saver' club.
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For an early intermediate pilot I would recommend the Tiger II or Tiger 60. They are pretty aerobatic when you want to but can land and fly slow almost like a trainer. Tiger actually lands slower and smoother than some ARF so called trainers I have flown.

The Four Star series from Sig is very similar.

Sigs are tail draggers and Tiger is trike.

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Old 02-23-2011 | 10:21 PM
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If I already had some flying ability and was only going to have one plane it would have to be an ugly stick. At your flying skill level this could be a nice way to go.
There are free plans downloadable and this would be an easy build. The plan I posted is just one example but any them could be made from foam board just as easily.

does any one have copy of this plan, or can blow me up a copy? i think im going to build my own, and put my money towards a good radio,reciever and servos.
can i use standard futaba servos for this ugly stick?

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