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Old 06-13-2011 | 10:42 AM
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Hi

I am a boat guy. Some friends have suggested planes. I am thinking of 3 channel that could stand a little wind. I thought about:

http://www.nitroplanes.com/j3pipercu...ProductReviews


http://www.hobby-lobby.com/ember_2_r...15043_prd1.htm

http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...ProdID=HBZ4900

http://www.parkzone.com/Products/Def...ProdID=PKZ1300

Any thought on these?

Any thoughts on any other planes?

Thanks! :-)
Old 06-13-2011 | 11:45 AM
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I am starting to lean heavily on the Champ
Old 06-13-2011 | 11:55 AM
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The Champ would be the best among those you listed, but they all are really too small to fly outside with any significant wind, especially for a beginner. Have a look at the Hobby Zone Super Cub if that's what you want to do.
Old 06-13-2011 | 12:11 PM
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Hi jester_s1

What is significant? :-)
Old 06-13-2011 | 12:18 PM
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My cousin has a Champ and it's small... It needs to be calm to maybe +5 winds to fly that without battling it all over the place. I'd recommend the HobbyZone Super Cub.
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Hi jester_s1

What is significant? :-)
Say what?

It's pretty hard to help when we have to decypher code. Just say it, please.

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ORIGINAL: jester_s1

The Champ would be the best among those you listed, but they all are really too small to fly outside with any significant wind, especially for a beginner. Have a look at the Hobby Zone Super Cub if that's what you want to do.
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Wrote signiciant wind. What is significant? 5MPH? 10MPH? 20MPH?
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Ok. Now how difficult was that?

Significant would be anything that is beyond both the plane and YOUR capability. For me, it's around 15 - 20 mph. If it's over that, I just don't go out.

For a beginner, especially with something that is really affected by wind, like the Champ, well, in the hands of someone that has flown before and is aware of how the plane works in the wind, well, it may work out. For a beginner, if you want to fly in any sort of wind.. well, maybe HAVE to fly in any sort of wind, meaning any time there is a wind blowing, I would opt for something a tad bit more substantial.

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Ditto what jester said. Compared toall the planes the OPlisted, the HZ super cub would be better. 5mph is no problem, Anything up to 10mph can be handled with the Hz Super Cub in the handsofanovice pilot with a few flights under his belt, as long as it's a steady wind and not toogusty. A true begginerdoesnot need try any more than 5mph until he gets a few flights under his belt. I frequently fly my Super Cub 5 to 15mph winds, butI'm no begginer, and I have crashed a few along the way!
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I have been looking at the Wilga 2000. Most reviews give it an excellent rating for beginners. Google it and see what you think...
Ready to fly electric version runs about $160. odd inUS$.
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Forgot to mention a couple of things. The Wilga is a 4 channel, but again, strongly recommended as a good beginner plane.
Also, I am a beginner and was told that the J3 was HARD to fly. Before I had any experience I bought a J3 Grasshopper 3 channel about 3 foot wingspan. It is no longer in existance [] but on the other hand I do have a small bag containing the remains....
Old 06-14-2011 | 06:14 AM
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Hey Guys!

thanks for your input. It looks like the Super Cub should be my plane of choice. However, due to budgeting, I may have to settle for the Champ. If I just take note of wind conditions I should have some fun? I am pushing for the Super Cub, but I know my wife all too well
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Just so you are aware I think you are comparing apples to oranges. The Champ is not reallyin the same category as the Super Cub. The Champ is tiny and can be flown inyour backyard andit's not reallya threat to damageanything or seriously hurt anyone aside from a prop strike, and even then not sure it would actually break the skin.Itmight scratch the paint if it hits a car.On the other hand, the Super Cub can be hand launched but it needs a muchlarger area to fly and a landing strip. Impacts could be significant, from broken windows to seriously hurtpersons if flown in a populated area. It's a park flyer, not a back yard flyer. Just want to make sure you understand that.
Old 06-14-2011 | 07:29 AM
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The Champ, along with all the other micros, are really most at home in an indoor flying area. The Super Cub is purpose built to be a beginner's outdoor plane, and even it can get twitchy in turbulent wind. I still much prefer a .40 size glow trainer for beginners, but that's a different category of plane altogether.
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This bit of info puts things into perspective. Thanks Aiden88

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