Iwas looking at both the Goldberg Tiger as well as the Sig 4-Star. My lhs says the Tiger has been discontinued. Looking tonight at Sig's website shows the 4-Star temporarily out of stock and then says no longer for sale. Am Iout of luck on either of these planes?

My other question has to do with the size. While Iwas looking at the 4-star, Inoticed they have (or had) 40, 60, and 120 sizes. Ihad been planning on a 60 size plane, but will admit that the bigger the plane, the more I will like it. Having learned on a 60 size trainer, if Ichose the 4-star, would there be a difference in the handling of a 60 and a 120? Would a 120 be too much for me is more the question. The area Ilive in does have wind every day and my thinking was the bigger the plane, the more stable in windy conditions.

WT

The 4-stars aren't going anywhere anytime soon. Sig had some problems in the past few years that they have worked through. They are getting caught up on their production now and temporary out stock is just part that catching up. But those planes will be with us for a while to come.

I've always preached that bigger is better. I am a bit hesitant about recommending a 120 sized plane to somebody only on their second plane, but that doesn't mean I'm ruling it out completely. The issues you're going to have on a 120 is that a glow engine that size is going to use up a lot of fuel and can run quite a bit of money. You can go with a gas engine, but there is a bit of a learning curve there for going that way. If you have somebody in your club that is experienced with gas engines and is willing to help that may be the way to go.

Now with that said, there is no reason why you couldn't get by with a 4-Star 60 either. I live in Southwest Oklahoma and we have the same winds that you do down there in Texas. I've had many 4-Star 60's and they will handle the wind down here just fine. So you'll be good if you go this route too.

With those two in mind it's really going to come down to which one you want to mess with. The 120 is going to cost more, and be bit more of a hassle to haul around. The 60 is easier to haul around and easier on the pocketbook, but doesn't fly as nice as the bigger one.

My choice?? With all things being equal I would go with the 120 size, and a gas engine. Build it stock at first and fly it until you are completely comfortable with it. Then cut two bays off of each side of the wing and then you'll have a brand new plane to fall in love with all over again!!!!!

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I have been lucky to get to fly all three sizes of the 4* series. I use the 60 size to teach building and find it a wonderful build, everything very straight forward. I haven't gotten to build the 120 size yet but I would guess it is like all the SIG kits, very straight forward. Flying I don't see a nickles worth of difference other then the smaller the plane the faster it will react. I do find the bigger plane a lot easier to see and it's very smooth. The 4* is well worth waiting for.

Tower Hobbies has the kits for the 40 and 60 sized Goldberg Tiger, but they are out of the ARF versions. They are such popular models I'm sure they will come back in stock.

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXYXF9&P=7

My second plane was a 4*60 kit...flew that plane for years......alot of people like the stick series of airplanes, I have never had one though...and there are a couple of ARFs that are simillar to the 4*'s....look at Hangar 9

Bruce Tharpe's Venture 60 is an update of the 4 Star. Bruce designed the 4 Star 40 and his new effort is said to have gotten the bugs out of the old design.

It is only by kit, no ARF, at Btemodels.com

I believe he is temporarily out of stock but should cut some more kits soon.

Tom

Bugs? the only bugs mine had was the bug that was holding the transmitter box!!

Love my Tiger 60.  Nuff said