engine dying
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engine dying
I'm having trouble with the engine dying with only 4 to5 minutes in the air. The engine is an os 46ax installed in a Hanger9 Saratoga. The problem startred after the muffler came loose on a evolution engine. When I could'nt get that engine tuned, I put the os engine in. It will run fine on the ground and I'm running it 3to4 clicks rich. I pulled the tank and replaced the filter and tubing but it still deadsticks with over a half tank of fuel. I ordered a new tank from Horizon but is there anything else I should look at. IOf anything, I'm getting good at deadstick landings
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RE: engine dying
Could be many things. Start with the simplest first...glowplug?..How old is the fuel? A guy at our field had the same problem. A new jug of fuel cured it.
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The glowplug is new along with the engine ( broken in with 2 tanks of fuel). I bought the fuel last summer so it is possible it could be that. I hate to throw away a 1/3 jug of fuel.
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RE: engine dying
Break-ins are tough on glow plugs, so I would still try a new one. There is no need to throw the fuel away. If new fuel fixes your problem, use the old fuel for break-ins. If it doesn't then you are eventualy going to need more fuel anyway. You could even "borrow" a tank of fuel from someone at the field, and maybe even a glowplug. At least you can mark that off your list of possible causes.
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Hi my05monte
I have seen similar cases and it turned out the fuel OUT and the pressure IN connections were mixed up. Check for this.
Hi my05monte
I have seen similar cases and it turned out the fuel OUT and the pressure IN connections were mixed up. Check for this.
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Did you open up enough airflow in the cowl? Engine overheating?
Could also be an overly lean run.
Did you tear the feed line in the tank? Once it gets to the plug level it starts sucking air. Than can happen if the brass/aluminum tank tube has a rough or sharp spot.
Love my Saratoga. They're great flying planes.
Could also be an overly lean run.
Did you tear the feed line in the tank? Once it gets to the plug level it starts sucking air. Than can happen if the brass/aluminum tank tube has a rough or sharp spot.
Love my Saratoga. They're great flying planes.
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RE: engine dying
after you dead sticked the plane let the engine cool down for about 10 minutes. Do not refill the tank with fuel and restart the engine. Does the engine stall soon after or not start at all? If so look for a tank or plumbing problem causing the trouble.
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I think we found it. The fuselage was soaked arond the tank and battery area. I could literaly wring the fuel out of the foam padding. One of the engine mount screws in the firewall had started to rub a hole in the tank. Had to order a new reciever as this one is fuel soaked so I won't know for sure till it comes in. Many thanks to all and happy flying
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I think we found it. The fuselage was soaked arond the tank and battery area. I could literaly wring the fuel out of the foam padding. One of the engine mount screws in the firewall had started to rub a hole in the tank. Had to order a new reciever as this one is fuel soaked so I won't know for sure till it comes in. Many thanks to all and happy flying
I think we found it. The fuselage was soaked arond the tank and battery area. I could literaly wring the fuel out of the foam padding. One of the engine mount screws in the firewall had started to rub a hole in the tank. Had to order a new reciever as this one is fuel soaked so I won't know for sure till it comes in. Many thanks to all and happy flying
Good idea is to use blind (tee) nuts on the firewall and cut off the screws/bolts so they do not extend into the tank area. Probably no need to patent your situation as I feel reaaal certain that it has been done before. Good luck flying.
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Your receiver should dry out ok. The alcohol won't stay there long and castor oil is non-conductive. If you want to salvage it, open it up and rinse it out with some distilled water then leave it out in the sun for a couple of days to dry it. As long as nothing corrodes it should be fine. Obviously you'll want to do a range test and extended stick wiggling test on the ground before flying it after that.
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G'day
If I dropped a receiver in fuel, I would wash it out with metho (de-natured alcohol) and then let it dry. I am pretty sure it would still be OK.
Some years ago we, at work, had a hydrophone streamer which we towed behind an Australian navy vessel. The streamer was filled with electronics and a liquid called Shell Sol-T. The Sol-t made the streamer casing and the wiring brittle so we tried all sorts of other liquids to use. I suggested castor oil and it ended up being the best as it did not harden the plastic or cause any damage to the electronics.
On a similar note, way back in the early 1980s, we had some early computers. An operator spilled coffee into the keyboard and the serviceman told us we needed a new one for about $1000. My mate, our technician, washed the keyboard with Freon, then distilled water and finally with metho to dry it out. He then let it dry for a few days. It worked perfectly. Modern electronics is amazingly tough.
Mike in Oz
If I dropped a receiver in fuel, I would wash it out with metho (de-natured alcohol) and then let it dry. I am pretty sure it would still be OK.
Some years ago we, at work, had a hydrophone streamer which we towed behind an Australian navy vessel. The streamer was filled with electronics and a liquid called Shell Sol-T. The Sol-t made the streamer casing and the wiring brittle so we tried all sorts of other liquids to use. I suggested castor oil and it ended up being the best as it did not harden the plastic or cause any damage to the electronics.
On a similar note, way back in the early 1980s, we had some early computers. An operator spilled coffee into the keyboard and the serviceman told us we needed a new one for about $1000. My mate, our technician, washed the keyboard with Freon, then distilled water and finally with metho to dry it out. He then let it dry for a few days. It worked perfectly. Modern electronics is amazingly tough.
Mike in Oz