as of above

A "DEADSTICK" is where you start sweating and you fingers turn numb,your knees turn to jelly and your feet feel like they are in concrete!

But the bottom line is when you move the left stick for throttle it does not do a thing ( IE; "DEADSTICK") because your engine has died.

SOMETIMES "FUN" And sometimes "monokote bag" time!

RON in NEVADA

It is just when your engine loses power. Not a good situation when you have no way of making it back to the runway.

as above, but also called air conditioning. When the thingy at the front of the engine stops going around and around the pilot starts to sweat a lot!!!!!

The term Dead stick and a whole bunch of other words are in the RC Glossary here at RCU. It has helped me a lot when I was trying to find out what people were talking about

-Brian

Be happy I didn't get here first with a Viagra joke..........

Sounds like you are new to the hobby or just looking into it. One thing to note is that a good trainer like an LT40 will usually be able to glide back to the runway safely when the engine quits. Its why deadsticks when training somebody, the plane is usually able to get back to the runway and land with no damage. As long as your instructor is paying attention, then its not a big problem.

yup i am brand new into this hobby just 2 weeks old

i am currently building a Combo25S from Pilot Japan

A good way to practice so that if and when you dead stick you will be some what prepared for it. Get your trainer way, way up in the air at least 5 to 6 mistakes high and then just cut the throttle to an idle (not a dead stick) and then see how long you can keep it in the air, it will want to stall and fall to one side so you will have to juggle the sticks kinda like balancing a bike. Thats basically all flying is about is a balancing act. You will have to keep your elevator and ailerons moving slightly to keep it airborne, well a little more elevator then ailerons anyway . Just keep practicing this and you will do fine.


Edit in: I am adding into the above. As you are practicing this go ahead and let it come on down and then land it at your idle speed. Once you have mastered this then you can practice "optional" actual dead stick landing's the same way, just get your trainer 5 - 6 mistakes high and then cut the engine. Let your plane float up there as long as you can as it starts to get closer the the deck you then need to get it lined up for your upwind landing approach

you will be surprised at how nice your landing will be if you option to dead stick land. I have noticed that I am more on my toes, aware and more alert when dead stick landing.

Randy

I had to land my GP Extra dead stick yesterday when all of the sudden it dies, and this engine has never quit (Irvine 53). Had to land downwind, no problem, had a good landing. Upon inspection of why the engine quit, I noticed the screw that holds the carburator barrel in, had came out, and barrel was sliding out. Now hopefully my LHS has this screw in stock.I will be re installing with loctite. Daz...

thestick you will be some what prepared for it. Get your trainer way, way up in the air at least 5 to 6 mistakes high and then just cut the throttle to an idle (not a dead stick) and then see how long you can keep it in the air, it will want to stall and fall to one side so you will have to juggle the sticks kinda like balancing a bike. Thats basically all flying is about is a balancing act. You will have to keep your elevator and ailerons moving slightly to keep it airborn, well alittle more elevator the ailerons anyway . Just keep practicing this and you will do fine.
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the way u put it u make it look so easy its my $600.00 up there man n i am yet to make fr's in singapore n ppl here are not the friendly type to teach me all this how i wish i was with u guys

Raghfrost,

I added to my post above but if you notice I said "trainer". I am assuming you are trying to learn on something other then a trainer if so that is not a wise idea. I would suggest you purchase a plane that is suited for training and not for advanced fliers.

Randy

Raghfrost,

Let me ease your mind a bit on the float flying trick. It depends on the kind of plane you have as all trainers will float quite nicely. The fact that I mentioned placing your plane up high very high give's you the ability to recover on a mishap which is not likely to happen with a trainer. Trainer's do not tip stall out of the sky meaning that they will come spinning to the ground. Once you have soloed and are flying on your own you will know what I mean.

I just took a look at your plane on the other thread and it appears that by looking at your plane you should not have any problems with it, and the OS are good dependable engines however all engines flame out from time to time no matter what kind it is thus causing a dead stick.

All I was trying to do was to help get you prepared for when the time comes that you may have to do a dead stick land.

Randy

Raghfrost, have never heard of the plane, do you have a pic or a link to a pic of the plane? Is it a high wing with a flat bottom? How big is it?

"A good way to practice so that if and when you dead stick you will be some what prepared for it. Get your trainer way, way up in the air at least 5 to 6 mistakes high and then just cut the throttle to an idle (not a dead stick) and then see how long you can keep it in the air, it will want to stall and fall to one side so you will have to juggle the sticks kinda like balancing a bike. Thats basically all flying is about is a balancing act. You will have to keep your elevator and ailerons moving slightly to keep it airborne, well a little more elevator then ailerons anyway"

..Frost. I wish a good instuctor was by your side. I hate to imagine the frustration and $$ you may go thru while learning

IMHO, What Blackie suggest is good advice regardless the model. But I dont recommend you try it without a good instructor that can recover the plane if required.

I do this with most new airplanes on the first flight. But I usually take it one step further and stall the airplane several mistakes high and recover. You know, get to slow and the nose or wing drops. Basically at a safe altitude you can learn just how slow the plane will glide and can discover the planes stall habits.

I was very glad that I did this with a friends new Giles on the maiden flight. We found that when stalled the left wing would drop every time. This is definitely something you dont want to discover during a landing aproach that gets a little slow.

Good luck,
James

My first ever solo landing on my Avistar was a deadstick. Not a huge problem since I was familiar with stopping the engine on my electric parkflyer for landings. I did deadstick quite a few times when I started flying glow, due mostly to my lack of engine tuning experience. And at the time I thought that some of my best landings were without power... But since then I've learned how to tune engines so that deadsticks are no longer an issue for me. I've got a TT GP 42 that has had over 60 flights without deadstick and one TT Pro 46 that has never deadsticked on me. And I've found that having power is critical to safe and effective landings for the most part. Learn how to tune your engines and deadsticks will become a rare occurance. If you do intend on practicing real deadstick landings, remember to call it out to the other flyers...

kewl thanks guys i think i will do that but have to find pals in Singapore(damn hard to find!).
so any 1 fr singapore Down here??

heres some good practice that will come in handy during a dead stick.

first you need to be familiar with your plane and be able to control it smooth. second you need a good open field

come in on a normal approach and do a touch and go...

then on the climb out stop climbing at 10 feet. (about 2 meters?) bring the pane around staying at 10 feet (you have to be smooth) doing this T&G the other way.

repeat, repeat, etc etc etc

you will notice 2 things

you will hardly need any throttle to keep it going after a while.... in fact I was able to stay under half throttle for a full tank this way (save for a few burst at full to get the nose up after touching)

and your turns will have to be smooth to keep it from going higher or lower.

what this teaches is how to make that final turn smooth as silk ... because when you dead stick you only got so much speed and one chance to use it.

I have dead sticked many time in my short flying time (about 15 DSs) and only had one bad one (trying to avoid another plane sitting on the ground ) arent unreliable engine great

oh and this isnt recomended for when too many others are at the field as it kind of monopolizes the landing area

Unstable, this may work for a more advanced pilot but in Raghfrost, case I believe my method would be more suited. two meter's does not allow much time for correction if something were to go wrong. 10 feet above the deck on the down wind lag would not give him time to recover if per say he really did flame out, which means he may have to do a down wind landing.


Just my thoughts
Randy

wow RC isserious bizz i did not know about all this kinda stuff and i did not even think 'deadstick' is such a serious issue!

boy am i glad i put this topic up! you guru's sure are pro in this stuff .

ok to prevent all this, the key this is to tune your engine rite?

if so how do i tune it so that i don get a deadstick the next time. i just bought the 25OS FX i am buying the controler on sat and some fuel.

My deadstick landings are pretty much right on whereas some of my power landings could be better. I think its because I know I only have one shot at it with a deadstick and make sure that it counts!

Deadstick is caused by Gremlins.....they just love shutting your engine down at the most in opportune time. You never know when, or where they will strike..so stay sharp!!!

One little bit of advice that may save you an airplane... Don't get fixated on making the runway. After some flying experience you'll most likely be able to hit the runway 9 times out of 10, but if you'll just get the plane turned into the wind and try to set it down gently in a clear spot it will probably suffer no damage. Remember, it's better to walk to retrieve your plane in one piece than crash it trying to stretch a glide that just ain't there. Just relax and land the airplane. A dead stick landing isn't usually a problem. Just don't try to force it by turning sharp at low altitude and airspeed lest the ground rise and smite thee.

The term "Dead Stick" refers to what a wooden propeller becomes when the engine quits...........A Dead Stick! My first 100 landings were dead stick landings. I learned to fly on R/C gliders. I now fly 40 sized electrics and often fly till I run out of electrons and dead stick it in.

I thought it was called a dead stick because that's what the control stick becomes without power. My first landing was a deadstick and it was on a plane that had an engine!