Elad,

Thanks for checking, and yes I am desperately looking for them. I lost my instruction manual but still have all the plans. I am not that good of a builder without instructions to know what and when I should be gluing sanding etc. I have a good idea but really need a very detailed (or at least somewhat) explaination of how to construct the two wing halves together AND how to reduce the dihedral to a A or B class wing (I am running with the C class..highest dihedral). I also wanted to add that 4th channel to the plane. Between that and building another sport plane through winter, that should suffice my RC building needs. I had alot of fun building my Eagle II.

Hey can I give you some advice? The Eagle II I built was about 11 years old so not sure if they changed this. But the gears (rear) they put on this thing through the fuse are flimsy at best! I would highly suggest two changes.
1. inside the fuse you will notice they are kept from 'popping out' by a U shaped holder system. I would suggest you glue two pieces of popsicle stick to each side then another wider piece cover both of them creating a box around the gears sticking up through. Otherwise they WILL pop out on even the more gentle landings.
2. On the underside of the fuse. Do not reinforce this too much as if you DO have a VERY hard landing they will pop out instead of ripping the FUSE apart. If anything, replace those nylon straps with something a bit more sturdy but leave the screws the same size so they will rip out if they need to instead of..as I said..ripping apart the fuse.

Like I said though, not sure how they are constructing that now. My bro's trainer has the buildup something like what I speak of, but his are actually solid wood blocks they slide into and those are glued to the fuse bottom and sides. Pretty cool looking. He has bent those thick gears far back and the blocks didnt budge. But then again his fuse sides are solid ply and not balsa'ish like mine though.


S

Sincraft,

OK on what you actually need, the manual, to guide you. As I said, I don't know if it will be available, but I'll try to remember to ask.

The Eagle II I'm getting is the one my instructor soloed with when he learned. He's self-taught and said he ruined 3 planes learing. He learned very well though. His landings are as smooth as butter.

I don't know how old his plane is, or exactly how long he has been flying. He remarked once that the plane hasn't been flown for 3 or 4 years. So, it's at least that old.

He just put a new OS .46 FX on it. It's old enough to be broken in though. It runs pretty good unless it's tuned a little rich, then it wants to die when idling.

I'll take a look at the places where you suggest improvements can be made. I haven't built a plane yet, but can look at the inside of the gear on the back side. It is still wearing the tricycle landing gear.

He did say he built it from a kit. I think it has something like a 16 oz fuel tank. It flies about 20 minutes on a fueling.

elad

16 oz fuel tank?!?!?!?!?!? LOL OMG

You sure he isn't a mad scientist? lol Man that is a HUGE tank for that plane. I wonder how he did it. Mine is 8 and I can fly forever it seems heeh. I personally like takeoffs and landings though.

Hey thanks for looking for me. If he built it from kit, I bet he at least HAD the instruction manual. That would be great cause you should see how much goldberg wants for a manual. It's ridiculous.

Regarding the Eagle itself. You won't need to crash 3 planes to learn. I have solo'd for my 6th time this Sunday with my total flights just over 12 or so. Very easy to fly and somewhat easy to land as far as I can tell. Mine screams through the air with that Enya 40..so that OS will push you nicely also.

Hey if you want me to, I will send you pics of the adjustments I made to the landing gears. You'll probablly see what I am talking about almost immediately however.

S

Well anyway,

I "thought he said" it was a 16 oz. fuel tank. Does your Eagle 2 stay up longer than about 20 minutes? Maybe he said it was a 6 oz. and I just heard wrong. Oh well.

Someone on another section of this forum asked about how much extra weight planes would carry. One answer was from someone who loaded his plane with 42 oz. of fuel, if I remember that right. He built the plane up (with a longer wingspan) for a long distance event his club ran. He flew the plane 100 miles nonstop. A team consisted of 3 people, the pick-up truck driver, and 2 who rode in back of the truck, the pilot/co-pilot part of the team. The co-pilot would spot obstacles up ahead for the pilot. They rode along at 60 mph and the plane kept up.

I sorta followed some of your other posts concerning the Enya. Congratulations on getting it worked out. I was half way thinking I would tell you they named it right, the Enya face. Now you can say that to me because it's working so well for ya. ha

I'll enjoy taking a look at the pic of any modifications you've done or might plan on. Right now I'm kinda an appliance pilot. I don't knnow how to build planes even though I'm a half fast carpenter. Plane building isn't the same thing, I know. I should get another digital camera and learn how to post pics. My old one quit about a year ago.

Thanks for sending the pic when you get the chance,

elad

Elad,
The key to posting pics and using a digital camera is FINDING it first (grumbles away from keyboard..then comes back to finish this). Not sure where it is at the moment. Sigh. It could be in one of four places. I don't have much organization in this house. I moved here in October and still have many many things still in boxes.
So anyway, yea I don't know about the fuel tank. Mine is 8oz, I flew what I THINK felt like 10 minutes and it was half full. So MAYBE he was right about the 6oz with some throttle management. I had mine on full throttle the other day the whole flight expect when I did a couple of loops. And after 5 minutes I brought it down just to check the fuel and it was half full. I am not a very good judge of this. I would suggest you check more into this before you take a crash course on dead stick landings. But they aren't that bad either. Especially if you have enough real estate. At our airfield, you MUST start a touchdown within about 50 feet or you are going to end up in the tall grass, a car, over a hill etc etc.

Thanks for the congrats on the engine. It's finally somewhat predictable. Which for me is good. Who wants to spend more time playing around on the ground when I can be in the air eh?

As far as that cross country thing goes. I have no idea how they went that far with that much fuel. I heard about stuff like that before but thought I was mistaken in understanding what they were saying. I THEN saw a webpage were this INSANE people take up ultralights with rear facing back seats and fly their planes with their ...planes. Insane. Sounds like a hoot, but still rather insane. I can see it now.

"what you doing"

-"building an ultralight"

"ah sick of the small ones eh?"

-"no I'm building this so I can fly it, then fly my r/c one behind it to a meet where we can fly our rc planes, then I'll return home in the same fashion"

followed by:
:We hearby proclaim Sincraft unfit and of unsound mind to handle his 'estate' and thereby proclaim it property of the state'...



(still sounds fun though)

Anyway, one day soon here, I will fly at half throttle and give you a dead stick report on fuel consumption for the books.

Expect pics soon of my plane in all its full glory. (pending above dead stick experiment doesn't got wrong HA)

S

P.S.- OH btw, building is a good time. You wounldn't have any probs with it. But just fyi, you can buy a ARF for the same price as a kit would cost after covering, glue etc. Amazing, I don't know how they do it. Local hobby store guy swears they are glued cheaply. But I dunno. ARFS were just surfacing and very expensive when I built my Eagle 2. But I think I will build something just for the fun of it. Not to mention, it will be easier to repair what I understand from building it from sticks ya know.

S