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Old 02-20-2013 | 05:30 PM
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I have been into rc cars and trucks but recently getting into rc planes,i have a stratos rtf i am learing the basic 3 channel controls.And jus ordered a goldwing mx2 50 3d arf.i am not familiar with building these planes as far as what motor im able to use.I have bought it as a project to learn hands on with.I am sorry but i am i newbie so if some body has any recommendations it would be greatly thankful, what 4c transmitter,nitro/electric engine,servos and additional stuff will i need.Thanks a bunch.</p>
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run dont walk to the nearest RC field get thee an instructor and learn the correct way Please
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I mean i no and i understand that the experianced users are just going to look at me like im stupid on here but im learing. like im just confused on mainly the engines,will all of them work like certain sizes.I understand tha transmitters and recevers,servos and the such.Iv looked for books showing the proper information on building planes how to installer everything correctly but i cant seem to find one so im having to learn hands on anther words.
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OK from a small parkie floater to a fifty cc sport aerobat gasser in one fell swoop or am I missing something here? I think not.

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Old 02-20-2013 | 08:30 PM
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It must be a full moon again! Why would you think what your attempting to do is a good idea? Dummy assemble the MX 2 so it looks nice, hang it on a string (a strong string) for display in your shop, and then as jetmech05 suggested go to your nearest RC field get an instructor and follow his advice. His advice will be something like....join AMA, join that local club, buy a proper trainer such as an Alpha 40 or a Super Star 40 or a Nexstar 46 or a Tower Trainer 40 or what ever he wants to teach you on, and let him teach you. Then after learning to fly, and after progressing thru several more difficult planes, then in a year or two (maybe more), you can take the MX 2 down off the string and get it ready to fly. If the thought of going thru all that learning crap dosen't appeal to you then just place the MX 2 still in the box behind the rear tire of your car and back over it! The finished result will be the same.
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Don't bother listening to the doom sayers, go out and get a nice DA 50 or a DLE 55 and rip up the sky!! I see no problems with your thinking at all. All your going to hear is that dreaded {{go out and get an instructor crap}} any good foamie pilot should be able to handle a gasser in the 50 class. There is hardly any difference in flight, just a few set up things you will maybe need to know.
Have fun with it!!
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Hmm, lets see now what do you suppose the definition of internet troll would be? Sure seems I,ve seen almost the identical post in the past with similar grammer and sentence structure even the the same airplanes in question but just a different stage name.

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not sure why he is going with the MX2
A turbine heli or turbine jet is way funner to learn on
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That is so true lmao he should jump on a simulator and go from there i think lol...
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Thanks for the proper posy gray beard...and for the others i hate why yall got to be such a smart hindend im not stupid i no it more advanced i never said i was going to fly it now i no i couldnt handle it.im wanting to buy it for the building experiance till im comfy then il take it up.If yall have any positive comments i would love to hear them for the others just keep ya mouth shut.
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You may want to leave the assembly of the MX until you have put together something with less signifigance like an inexpensive high wing trainer or a 2nd aircraft like a 4 star or similar to get your feet wet assembling and glueing. If you follow the directions that come with the arf, you should have no problems. Visiting a club will help, because you will see what other people have used and hear why. Assembling the MX, you will want to apply the principle that you will learn on something more forgiving to make it come out as light and strong as possible. Once you visit a club, you can recieve other advantages, you may pick up flight skills to enable your basic flying, and there is a good chance that one or more people there engage in the type of flight that the MX was designed for. Another thing is that watching these other folks will likely motivate you just due to the variety of aircraft and personalities you will run into. Most of the answers to the questions that you have will be answered once you see what other folks have used, and most of them will explain why they put together what they did to make it fly. I am talking about everything from Tx type and brand, servos, engines, how to tie up the fuel lines, etc. I will tell you that securing the ends of the gas line to the nipple is an "extremely" important part of the hookup, once you leave the ground. I lost a 6 foot wingspan Stearman because a fuel line came off at the wrong time. (Notice it didn't make it to My Models on my profile page).
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Bonney let me spell it out for you the advice that I and others gave you is spot on.....you asked our opinion....we want you to be succseful....your best chance of building and flying that mx2 is to get an instructor....learn from him
but its your money and your attitude go do as you wish...just record it
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not sure what he means by getting build experience, its an ARF its built, not really anything left to do. If its a 50cc it will need professional radio and gear installation, done once and proper, its not something to experiment with.
3 channel basic to a 50cc aerobat is ridicilous, cant even take it seriously, prolly trolling, hope this guy has lots of money and time, because he will waste alot of both, unless he takes advice from here, its got nothing with being stupid. its a learning curve with rather harsh results when they go in.
If you ignore all the advice, then you are stupid.
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I started with a 30 size helicopter than a 60 and finally a 90. The only problem I encountered were crashes due to pilot error. I think this will be the same for the poster.
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A 30 size heli is similar and nearly as complex as a 90, you could likely have jumped straight into the bigger one. severity of crashes and expenses are the biggest difference when going bigger

he is basically going from a co axial to 90 size aerobatic heli in heli terms...not wise
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Your exactly correct but money was my limiting factor. The 90 flies like a trainer compared to a 30.
Old 02-21-2013 | 09:35 AM
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Hey, I am thinking why not go: Foamy to full scale! Now there you go [X(]
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Sure are a lot of nay sayers, it's like no one has ever just jumped off the deep end before. The 50cc class a very good starting point when after you have mastered the three channel foam planes, much easier to fly but a bit more complicated to assemble. There are many good 4 channel radios that will work for you. Right now most hobby shops have a fine selection of used ones you can select for next to nothing in the way of cost. After a couple of weeks of flying the 50 I would suggest a nice 40% with the DLE 110 engine as the next stepping stone. Just a bit more money but much easier to see and fly. Just one mans opinion. Ignore the old fuddy duddies, they think there is only one good way to get into the larger planes. I seem to be the only one here that still has some adventure in his soul. Go For it!!!
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I only wish I could be there to watch the first (and only) flight! [X(]

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I only hope he can hold off until I can open a hobby shop in his neighborhood. With him as a customer, everything else would be gravy.
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Mean harted people!!! Don't listen to them.
Old 02-21-2013 | 08:40 PM
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I still think that my advice to " leave it in the box and back over it with the car" was the best advice given. It's quick and easy, and the lowest cost way to go......no expensive radios or servos to buy, no expensive engines to buy and break in, no glue required, and not even any thinking required. But, that's just my opinion.
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I mean i no and i understand that the experianced users are just going to look at me like im stupid on here but im learing. like im just confused on mainly the engines,will all of them work like certain sizes.I understand tha transmitters and recevers,servos and the such.Iv looked for books showing the proper information on building planes how to installer everything correctly but i cant seem to find one so im having to learn hands on anther words.
Rather than bag you, as that achieves nothing, I am going to reinforce some (helpful) key points.
Firstly, do yourself and your wallet a favor and leave that plane in it's box for now. A 50cc aerobat like that is a super responsive, super fast and hugely powerful model (think missile), and one that WILL bite a novice without a second thought. Rationalize it like learning to drive with a F1 or Indy Car, starting the motor is a real buzz, the next 2 seconds have you in a tree just prior to going to hospital.

The club is the best route for you, as you will get help on learning how to fly, as well as learn from those in the know as to what component is required for a specific application. There is a LOT more to this side of RC than just servos and receivers, and even more so when moving from a small trainer into a BIG low wing tail dragger. The flight characteristics are a not even close, and the ground handling is different for one, the understanding of what the programming in the GOOD QUALITY transmitter you should be using with that type of plane is another. Not to mention redundancy power systems, CG setup, fuel tank to motor positioning etc etc etc. And these are all things people at clubs with years of experience will help you with if you are serious about eventually enjoying that plane for any lenght of time.

I'm personally going from 3D nitro heli's to a SMALL (56" wide) aerobat, and while it's toned down hugely on it's control surfaces, there is a hell of a lot for me to pick up before I would even think of going to a big gasser, and I have 3 years on nitro helis behind me! Yes my learning cure is a little shorter as a result, but I would NEVER consider jumping from a heli to a 50cc gasser as it would be just asking for serious levels of trouble!

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