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Old 05-17-2013 | 05:30 PM
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Thank you John, I sort of thought that was where you were going . ENJOY !!! RED
Old 05-17-2013 | 05:48 PM
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In his case, a 2.4 Tx would definetly be an upgrade. I know 72 Meg is still perfectly good technology and the blame is surely onhim, but all of us at ourfield have been wonderingfor years why he has'nt made the switch from that old FM system considiring the money he spends onhis aircraft. in my opinion 2.4 is far superior than 72 meg and never needing a frequency pin or impounding my Tx, or worring about someone shooting me down gives mepeace of mind.
<span style="font-size: larger;"><span style="font-family: 'Comic Sans MS';">I fly everything from foamies to 36% and I'm not bragging but, the shear volume of planes that would need to be retrofitted would devastate me. I've thought about changing a few at a time, but threads like these (even though not the case) have prevented me from doing so. When FM goes the way of AM and I have no choice in the matter, I'll dread it, but comply.</span></span>
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Old 05-17-2013 | 06:06 PM
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It is an investment for certain.  I put it off until three years ago and phased in with the module that Futaba put out for the 9C.  Then I got an 8FG and retrofitted a model every few months until I was all 2.4gHz (and Futaba upgraded the software so it's now a 14 channel).  I added a Spektrum 6XDi for my little guys.   

Not waiting for the pin on Saturdays or at events is worth as much as the other advantages combined.
Old 05-18-2013 | 01:51 AM
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This is the Absolute last timeI will post in this thread, I am regretting starting it,.It is apparent thatmost of (not all)the people still using 72 meg are offended that I think getting a 2.4 system is an upgrade from the outdated technology that is 72Mg. DOWHATYOUWANT!!! Now I know why some people are afraid to even post thier opinion at all on these forums. I also believe that alot of people dont join RC clubs becauseofthesmall minority of RC ers in clubs are just like the combative people on this thread. I'm sorry I ever mentioned it!! Go ahead and use your TX regardless of its frequency. I wish you all good luck. This is the last time I will Say to all of you Beginners out there andNOT all the veteran know it allswho just because they disagree with me have to insult me by saying I think I am better than other people because I have the best equipment, or know for a fact that My friends Tx isnot a P.O.S. ( When everyone at my field agrees with me that it is, ANDTHEYHAVEACTUALLYSEENIT!!!)Etc... It is the ONLYTx he has. Remember, This applies ONLYTOTHEBEGINNERSOUTTHERE!!!!!! Dont forget to put up your antennas guys if you are using the perfectly good technology that is 72 Meg. Rotten is over andout!!!!!!
Old 05-18-2013 | 02:37 AM
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Yes, I do agree 2.4ghz is an upgrade simply for the fact that the frequencies are selected by the radio and jump with interference and use. I keep a 72 around for one particular reason. I use model match and would not have it any other way. When you curmudgeons wake up and smell the coffee, you will realize it is time to move on and upward. So when are the 5.8ghz radio going to hit the market, and when is 72 frequency going to get sold to cellular phone service? If radio manufacturers don't have anything new to sell, the market dries up.
Old 05-18-2013 | 03:51 AM
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How do like this. The OP is upset about saying the 2.4 has it's advantage and 72 has seen it's day, and some folks are upset he said it. Besides 2.4 causing some problems in the so called drone issue. 2.4 is wonderful. Still some very good 72 radios are around and our club donates them to the kids trying to get in on what we call, short money. Now just about everyone is using 2.4 and six volt flight packs. Some are using straight life batteries. Still we are using 72 to teach and trying to save new comers some money until they find themselves, and they always do. I have helped hundreds learn to fly and as they say in the movie Stripes, that's a fact Jack. The old 72 radios are perfect for this purpose. We give the well working 72 radios away and soon the new person comes out with their 2.4 and the rest is history. 72 is not yet history, but it is getting there. Why the big fuss. Heck I failed to pull the antenna up and busted a plane. The thing is, I did it before there was 2.4 as a lot of us have. We all screw up and if we are finding blame as to why we screwed up we have to look no place else than who is in our shoes.
Old 05-18-2013 | 11:20 AM
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LOL, anybody driving w/o A/C?.<div>Trash those 72, this is the 21st century, and this is the most powerful nation in the world</div>
Old 05-18-2013 | 04:57 PM
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Don't be sorry, We've all done stupid stuff! I once tossed a cox powered motor glider forgeting to turn on the airborne pack LOL If dumb mistakes did'nt happen, We would'nt have AFV. One of the best shows ever. IMO
Old 05-18-2013 | 05:49 PM
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So sorry for his loss! I fly bought and the little flags do help to remember for me"
Old 05-18-2013 | 07:53 PM
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Rotten40851,
99% of my model airplanes are still on 72MHz. For some of us, it would cost to much money to upgrade to 2.4GHz.
I don't understand why in a couple of your posts you refered to 72MHz as a P.O.S?

- Allan B

Allen, there are numerous pompous b...t..xs in every walk of life. Things are easier when real people ignore them. I have five 2.4 transmitters, 1/2 dozen receivers
hanging on the wall board in plastic covers, and two 2.4 units that I am flying. Personally I like having that long antenna pointing away from me. MY CHOICE. One of the few freedoms that we still have in this country. The vast majority of my airplanes consist of 72 mhz, control Line and rubber power. [8D]
Back in November, 1981 I was instrumental in assisting the AMA Frequency Chairman to finally secure the 72MHZ freq. from the FCC.
Without them RC was on it's death bed as far as RC AIRPLANES were concerned. He soon thereafter resigned from the Frequency Committee and shortly thereafter I resigned from the AMA Executive Council. Kinda like saddeling up and getting the L out of Dodge!

The likes of these holier-than-thou sxxxxxd-up individuals have always been and always will be. Ignore them and let 'em scream.
Old 05-19-2013 | 03:24 AM
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Some subjects can bring out some sensitive issues For me, I simply love the 2.4 technology with model match. I have all of my planes on one radio and I have a spare radio. This is "da bomb" as they say. I simply love it.

If I would have had a large surplus of older radios this would have been a much harder process for me. I have nothing against anyone flying whatever radios they have. I would just advise if you can afford to go to the new technology, go for it and enjoy! If you cannot and have the old, still enjoy!

Happy flying!
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And then there are those of us that can afford the latest and greatest and don't due to not being able to see a reason to spend the cash when there is no real need. I, like Charlie P, have a Futaba 9C that I run on 72MHz and 75MHz. Since I already use that one radio for everything, why spend the cash on a unneeded radio just to have the latest and greatest when I don't have to. I'm one that drives a car until it pretty much dies, repair my tools rather than buy new and use what I have on hand for parts whenever I can rather than spending just to keep up with the other guys along the flightline.
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And then there are those of us that can afford the latest and greatest and don't due to not being able to see a reason to spend the cash when there is no real need. I, like Charlie P, have a Futaba 9C that I run on 72MHz and 75MHz. Since I already use that one radio for everything, why spend the cash on a unneeded radio just to have the latest and greatest when I don't have to. I'm one that drives a car until it pretty much dies, repair my tools rather than buy new and use what I have on hand for parts whenever I can rather than spending just to keep up with the other guys along the flightline.
It's to bad there aren't more people that think that way, but NO , if it's not new or I have to fix it, get something else and dump the 2 day old stuff.

Sorry about the rant but look at what's really happening in the world today and MAYBE you can see why us old farts don't like what we see . ENJOY !!! RED
Old 05-29-2013 | 10:35 PM
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Don't know if I'd call myself an old fart but I do know the value of a dollar now that it's worth about 39 cents. To me, one that's had to work for everything I've ever gotten, it's hard to justify "upgrading" when I've seen the latest and greatest glitch and fail on more than one occassion. Let's look at some of the operating conditions a radio system has to deal with:
1) If used around water, 2.4 is subject to reflection and distortion, not good for boats, floatplanes or in rainy conditions . This environment would be better suited for 27MHz, 72MHz and 75MHz as they are not affected nearly as much
2) Due to reflection, 2.4 is not really usable for submarines as that frequency range won't penetrate water easily. For subs, your best option is the longest wavelength you can get, 27MHz
3) Using 2.4, while being almost impossible to shoot down, can cause problems when it comes to compatability. Using Futaba as an example, there is FASST and FHSS. While they are both 2.4, they are not the same and therefore, if you have a FASST transmitter, you can't use an FHSS receiver.
As a lifelong mechanic/electrician/avionic tech, I believe in using the right tool for the right job. To me, 2.4 isn't the right tool for many applications but, rather, it's a new gimic being fed to us by the manufacturers as the greatest thing since sliced bread

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