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Old 10-06-2013 | 08:31 AM
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I am thinking of constucting a turbine jet of this style of design http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTHWBSluUjU
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Old 10-07-2013 | 03:00 AM
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I think youre in the wrong section buddy.
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That's not something you cobble together yourself, and certainly not a first timer's project. The skills needed to even fly it, let alone design it and build it, take years to develop. Start with a trainer and work your way up from there.
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OK but how would you build a body like that like what materials do you think you should use
Old 10-08-2013 | 12:36 PM
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Carbon fiber with a lightweight foam core, probably fiberglass for the fuselage. I guess your next question will be how to build with composites?
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Thanks for the info but as you probably guessed this is my first time building a plane and do you need a mold to build it? And would i do a layering style for the body and wings and then fiberglass for the fuselage where the electonics go
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I know only one person that could build that plane for himself and lay it up. Something way out of the beginners realm and not even something in the kit builders forum. I hope your an expert pilot at the very least. Most the turbine powered planes are ARFs and only scratch built by experts that can make up there own plugs and know how to work with glass and fiber products. I have been building for 57 years and it's way beyond anything I would try. There are a number of RC electric type of jets you can buy the templates for and cut your own foam to build them. That would be a very good starting point. I have found the sites on youtube and once in a while posted here on RCU. There are plenty of delta plane plans on different plans services, I have even seen them in the plans section at airage.com or M.A.N. plans. Just the turbine engine in the plane you showed is over 5000 bucks. Composites aren't easy to work with for a first timer. There is a composite forum on RCU you may want to surf around on.
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Gray Beard put it well. In case you didn't catch my sarcasm, if you have to ask these questions you aren't ready for any kind of jet. If you want to get into RC planes and work your skills up to a speedy machine like that, join a club and buy a trainer. There is a link at the top of the forum about what's available. An instructor at the club can get your basic flying skills in order, then you can progress to faster and more demanding planes as your skills improve and your budget allows.
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Hi jkm7
I have been in R/C since 1972. I have seen many novices become infatuated with a specific model and completely ignore the need to learn to first, LEARN TO FLY R/C. Frequently, these people drop out of this wonderful hobby soon. The experience of learning to fly will expose you to many things you need to learn. I offer you no advice, since you seem to be unable to judge it.
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Part of what I was trying to get across is there is a forum on RCU, Composites and fabrications that would be a better place to ask about working with the items needed to build such a plane and the plane and engine used in the jet in the video is way beyond what any beginner could ever hope to build without a ton of skills. There are a number of smaller jet type of planes to start out with, the delta electrics would be a good starting point and for someone wanting to build there own I would advise to start with making them from foam. I have one of goirish foam cutters he makes and sells and have plans on making up a few jet type of planes myself during the winter. His cutter is outstanding and fun to work with. Learning to fly is also a first step. I would go to a club and start taking lessons while I was building/cutting planes. I do make up some of my own glass cowls and make plugs to make some canopy's but they are very basic and it is a process I have been learning very slowly over time. Working with composites is an art I have never learned but it would be a good goal for someone new to the hobby, my time is winding down but if I was a lot younger I would be learning. I have seen some basic trainer kits for jets that any kit builder would be able to build. I would start there, they are more of a regular kit build, I think they were called the Tiger Cats??That would get a new persons foot in the door and the engine and gear could be used again as the person advances. This type of plane is just way out of the realm of most of the beginners in this forum but I see the jet as a goal to work towards, most of the beginners are all wanting to work towards WWII fighters and the stunt planes, why not jets too. If you have the money it's a good goal. Learning to fly and build is also a good goal. I would start with building and cutting foam models first though.
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A good progression would be trainer, Ugly Stick, Parkzone Stryker, Habu jet, BVM Bobcat (jet trainer), then a speed demon like that one.
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First thing you need is a halon fire extinguisher.
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. . . this is my first time building a plane and do you need a mold to build it? And would i do a layering style for the body and wings and then fiberglass for the fuselage where the electonics go
Good for you. The Jetcat 160SE turnine engine isn't available but a 140 or 180 for $3,300 or $4,000 and another $2,000 for airframe and mechanicals, and $1,000 for electronics will give the industry a boost. And, 17 seconds into the first flight you can start all over. I applaud your enthusiasm and hope it lasts.

I find the GP 30mm F-86 Sabre as thrilling as I care to be with a jet - though that's just a ducted fan. You should try one for $150 - about the cost of a servo for the turbine - and see if you have the right stuff before you take a big leap.

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It is not clear where you live and will be flying but if it is the USA and you intend to fly with AMA insurance at AMA flying fields the be aware that

A you need what is known as a turbine waiver see http://www.modelaircraft.org/files/510-d.pdf

B the AMA limit turbines to 200 mph

I appreciate your interest in wanting to build and fly such a model but you really do need to get some airtime on models that fly slower. My last turbine model was a Scale Starfighter and it could exceed 200 mph [ UK based no speed limits ] and I was flying on instinct and experience much of the time. At that sort of speed the model gets small very quickly and disorientation is a real problem.

This is a good introduction to high speed flight and is a fraction of the cost of a turbine model. Maybe your third or fourth model.

http://westonuk.co.uk/westonuk2_103.htm

Not many people get to the top levels and can fly the fast movers without planting one or two.

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