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Old 02-16-2015 | 09:36 AM
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Hello to all! This site looks be be a wonder place with lots of knowledgable and helpful folks. Well my problem is I don't have a clue in this new hobby and could use some help. First off I bought this so called great deal with 2 nitro planes, a field box and lots of extras. Yep you guessed it. I got robbed lol. I have one red arrow 45t plane with 3 jr servos with an enua ss 40. Also got a unknown yellow plane with 4 Futuba servos and a max 80 Also got a cirrus 72 MHz radio with 2 recivers that all have different channels. My box also came with a Futuba mr 4qb battery. So I went and bought a spectrum dx6i and an ar610 dance 6 channel reciver and some fuel. Now back home after driving 2.5 hours to nearest hobby store and looks like battery and servo connectors don't match up. What do I need to get this thing going so I can crash it and start all over?
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The best advice you could get would be from club members in your area...check to see if there are any near you. You DON'T need to try it on your own...you could hurt yourself or someone else.
Old 02-16-2015 | 10:55 AM
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dryverman is correct. You need a local club to get you straightened out. Go to http://www.modelaircraft.org/membership/clubs.aspx and click on the "Find a Club" link. It will show you all the clubs in your area. Most times, there will be no shortage of experienced flyers willing to help you get straightened out as also to learn how to fly.
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Yes I did find one some what close to me and will do that. Just wanted to get them all set up before hand
Old 02-16-2015 | 12:47 PM
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Yes I did find one some what close to me and will do that. Just wanted to get them all set up before hand
And the club members will help you get them set up also.
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Ok sweet deal. I did end up finding the right plug connectors I had out in a tool box. Got the fuel lines replaced and already repaired the rudder hinges with ca hinges. Runs and iddles like a champ on ground
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Did you have the old 90 degree servo connectors with 2 pins close together and the other a little farther? If so, those are really old servos. it's in your best interest to really check them closely for smooth movement and be sure that vibration doesn't cause any unwanted movement. Also, don't even think about using the batteries that came with the planes unless you are sure the seller bought them within the last year. With planes that old, there is only about a .00001% chance that he did. Buy new batteries and new good quality switches so that you'll be able to trust your electrical system.

I'll also second the advice of others to get with a club. And don't go into this planning to crash, because that's exactly what you'll do with that mindset. Many many people go through training and advance into their 2nd and 3rd planes with never a single crash. Sure, the law of averages says that a mishap will happen eventually, but having a positive mindset and planning for success will stop the vast majority of those mishaps from happening. On a related note, when you contact the local club and hopefully speak with an instructor, make it clear that you're a newbie to both flying and building and ask him to go over your plane with a fine toothed comb before flying it. Make it clear that these are old planes that you've fixed up and you want to have your work checked over and will appreciate any errors he can point out for you. It's amazing how many obvious errors you can miss over and over again while setting up a plane that a fresh set of eyes will catch instantly. And, of course, it's not so amazing how many things a new hobbyist doesn't know about proper setup that is old hat to those who have a few years behind us.
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No the servos are not like that. I will post pictures soon of planes and electronic equipment. Maybe someone could tell me the brand or manufacture of the planes
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No the servos are not like that. I will post pictures soon of planes and electronic equipment. Maybe someone could tell me the brand or manufacture of the planes

Yes post as many pics as you can. That is what I did last fall when I got into the hobby with an old plane that I refurbished. The guys here will help you a lot.
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Hey Apiper720 indeed to get the best advice You really need to post many pictures of everything you got even before buying anything else. And of course the very first thing you want to do is seek a hands on mentor without fail. This is most often done at your local club.

Now curiosity wants to know (something about curiosity killed the cat) what your handle is all about, Hmm a piper fan perhaps one with an IO-720 in it. Ya own or been flying a Pawnee Brave or my favorite the rare Comanche 400???

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John, my name is Andrew piper and I am a police officer. So I took first letter of name complete last name and my badge number. Lol. Apiper720. Although the piper planes are also cool. I have never owned or flew any planes. Just bought 2 unknown make trainer planes to get started on
Old 02-22-2015 | 03:32 PM
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Andrew the best thing I could tell you at this point is to buy cheapie kids toy radio controlled car, practice with it until you can maneuver that car straight out away from you make a turn and bring it straight back to you, over and over till you can slalom with it forward and back without having to even thing about left to right orientation.
See, with a car you goof it up over and over and just simply kick back on it;'s wheels and go, with a plane you only get one mess up and it's over, so I can't stress enough the importance of left to right orientation. Once you get that second nature your that much closer to flying.
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I posted some pictures on my profile. Please look and see if you can tell me what kind of planes they are
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Well, without the wings on them and the angle of the picture, it is very difficult to identify the planes, but they certainly look like fine examples of the hobby. Would it be possible to post more and better pictures of them from several angles and with the wings on them? They look like very flyable planes to me. Guys in your club or area would be more than happy to work with those planes and help you get them flying. It sounds like all you really need to do is sort out the radio equipment and get on a buddy box with someone. Are the wings flat or do they have dihedral? Do they have ailerons or no? I suspect they have flat bottoms, but not necessarily. Those are a couple really nice planes. Keep us posted on what happens with them.
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All the other pics are on my gallery profile. The wings are installed on a couple. Red plane has ailerons and one does not. Both has steerable landing gear. Yellow plane is a 4 channel and red on is a 3 channel
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[QUOTE= Yellow plane is a 4 channel and red on is a 3 channel[/QUOTE]
You're backwards, the yellow is a 3 channel and the red is the 4 channel. That what your pictures show.
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Look like decent trainer planes. Your one plane is missing the muffler pressure tap. Most enyas will tune and run fine without it. Get good batteries for them. At least a 5 cell nicad pack. 4.8v 4 cell packs dont give you much margin with spektrum 2.4 systems. The radio that came with the planes probably dates them to late 80s to early nineties. I would advise you to change the switches on them too. Look over the wires on the old ones for signs of corrosion, they may be ok even though they are old. If the old batteries were left hooked to them for years they probably have black wire corrosion and are shot. That said, I have had 3-4 new heavy duty switches fail in a short time-- far more than the old stock switches that may have 20 years on them.. Sucks to change out a 20 year old switch for insurance and have the new one fail after 10 flights...... have fun!!
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Switches should really be changed every time the batteries are changed. They are the most fragile part of the electronics system and the most susceptible to vibration damage. I cycle test the batteries every 6 months and change them every 3 years assuming they haven't failed a cycle test. A fellow club member changes his switches and batteries every year because he's had a failure before in the second year. But he flies usually twice a week, so he puts more use on them than I do.
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The red and white plane looks like a SIG Kadet.
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Originally Posted by AllModesR/C
The red and white plane looks like a SIG Kadet.
Ummm, could it be a Mini Craft Red Arrow 45T like it says on the plane?
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