What is a 3d plane?

Ethan

are you a new pilot? if so dont get a 3D plane but if you arnt go with a SPA3DT or a U CAN DO 3D.

A 3D plane has over sized control surfaces and a powerful engine compaired to the size of the plane. They can basically hover around in place like a helicopter. Its really neat to watch for about 5 seconds, then it annoying in my opinion. They can fly around too, but most peole just hover them around and spin in circles etc.

I am sure my explanation doesn't do it justice. Maybe someone else can give you a better explanation. But that is what it is in a nut shell.


Wings,

A plane designed for 3D is a plane designed with very oversized control surfaces enabling it to be able to take advantage of the thrust provide by an engine that is large enough to fly a plane with the weight equavalent to a plane 3 to 5 times that of the one on which it is mounted. The best planes for 3D (until recently) usually have more than 1,200 square inches of wing area. Flight in the area of 3D is usually performed with the plane in a stalled, or near stalled condition.

These planes are extremely sensitive to any amount of control input, no matter how small. Because of this, it is STRONGLY suggested that a beginner or novice pilot not attempt flying one unless they are willing to risk, and certainly lose, a sizable cash investment.

Wings gave a pretty fair assessment of the 3d situation (IMO). It takes a long time to be competent enough to perform 3D manuvers with competance and precision. It also takes a long time to perform precision aerobatics. In the beginning, straight and level will be difficult, but with time and practice all things will come to those willing to work at it.

I wont get into this one again You should ask this question in the 3D forum where it is more accepted.

Silversurfer is really close to the right definition. You can add this simple statement with what he said and get a good idea of what it is.

3D is balls to the wall all out performance aerobatics. Pretty much the X-Games of the modeling world. If you want me to go further into depth with what it is, how you do it, how you set it up then PM me about it. Everytime I give an explanation in the beginners forum of what 3D is my explanation gets shot down by people who dont like 3D saying how annoying they think it is. Could be caused by jealousy.

I'm with southern touch, that Silversurfer put it fairly well. 3D takes a lot of practice and skill though, so just b/c you have a 3D plane it doesn't mean that you can fly 3D maneuvers. IMO I think that 3D is one of the most challenging and all out fun types of r/c flying out there.

It is not jealousy dude. I totally respect the fact that it takes a lot of talent. I think it is awsome to watch, but it just gets old when someone is out there doing the same thing over and over and over and over. Its not that I don't like it. I just have a short attention span I guess. I guess it is the same with other planes. But at least it is not right by the runway, in your face, can't ignore, type of situation.

I really do think it is neat, but I can't stand to watch someone fly 3D for more than about 5 minutes. I guess that is just my opinion, everyone has one I guess, lol.

Peace,

Wings,

Still crackin up about Wing's statement...[sm=lol.gif].........maybe you should make a couple high speed low passes near one of the 3D ships hovering over the runway. That would make them move...JK
I fly 3D and everything else. Everything is fun but I tend to agree with wings......I fly my other ships more than the 3Ds.

Peace





There is plenty of room for everyone to get bombed by a bird

Wings,

I am not getting back into this long drawn out subject that always gets off topic in this forum. BUT, I will say this. The people you are watching 3D must suck or are just starting to fly 3D if you lose interest that quick. The people who can truly 3D will do more than just one or two things over and over. Hovering (I can safely assume that this is the particular part your talking about) is just one part of 3D. There are Blenders, Waterfalls, Harriers of all sorts, Elevators, High alpha (broad category), Quiques Leaf, Knife Edge Spins, Walls, Crazy Ivans, 3D Snaps, etc. etc. PLUS a good 3D pilot will throw in precision as a large part of his freestyle routine. This precision can include regular rolling circles, point rolling cuban 8's, rolling loops, etc. etc. or it can include a 3D/precision combo (i.e. Harrier rolling circles, Knife edge dives aka "death slide", etc. etc.) You get the point yet? Oh, did I mention you can make all sorts of combos of these moves? You can also vary everything in speed, direction, and altitude. You can even put a routine to music and choreograph the moves with the music. That could bring us to a very exhaustive list of what has to go into an official 4 min. freestyle routine. There are a couple of pages of set guidelines with K factors built in to assure that the pilot doesnt just sit there and hover the whole time.

I have some REALLY great videos that I could show you that explains what I am talking about but they are too large to load on here right now. If anyone is interested in 3D flight then check out www.downonthedeck.com . However, I need to warn you 3D squeamish people that there is hovering, torque rolling, waterfalls, harriers, and MANY other 3D moves on the site. Many of the guys on the DOD site know how to 3D very well.

P.S. I keep wondering why you people who dont really like 3D keep answering questions about 3D???

Ever think maybe the reason it is always a long drawn out discussion is because you take it too personal? [sm=idea.gif]I didn't say I didn't like 3D, I actually said I thought it was cool for a few minutes. However I personally have no attention span for it. I have downloaded video files with 3D planes, and experts. It is really cool if you are into that sort of thing and it takes a lot of dedication and practice I am sure.

I never said anything negative towards it other than I don't care for it. I can't help that it does not interest me and that I find it annoying. That is my personal opinion and if you like 3D that is great! But not everyone does.

Lighten up dude ,

I think one reason I don't care for it is because I love to watch R/C planes and relate them to real planes. When watching 3D planes it is in the back of my mind that a real plane could never do that. Again, this is MY opinion. Please don't get your feathers in a ruffle. Hell, maybe one day my interests will change and I may try it. But for now, I think it is neat, but it annoys the hell out of me .

Wings,

"I think one reason I don't care for it is because I love to watch R/C planes and relate them to real planes. When watching 3D planes it is in the back of my mind that a real plane could never do that."

If you have ever watched a few of the new full scale aerobatic planes fly you will find out that they are doing some 3D I have seen the zivko edge hover, torque roll, tail slide, wall, knife edge spin, a super flat spin.

Your never gonna beleive this but some of the full scale aerobatic guys say that they get great inspiration from watching 3D and it has them out experimenting with certain 3D moves that they would have never dared to try before. Matt Chapman said this on TV Right now he is learning to fly and do some 3D stuff as well. He says its a lot harder than he would have ever imagined.

Knife-edge spins are suppose to be the hardest to do, but my plane automatically goes into them when on 3D rates Coolest thing.

Let's see if the 3D guys get it...

Hey E-snake, a 3D plane is any plane besides a profile plane!

Jesse

Hate to bust your bubble but,= Knife Edge spins are a long way from being the hardest to do. In fact they are one of the easiest of the more complex aerobatics. It all comes down to stick motion with very little "feel" needed for the move. IMO the hardest 3D moves are (in no particular order) 1. Harrier rolling figure 8 with a reversal of roll direction at the cross over. 2. Crazy Ivan (aka Harrier rolling loop) 3. Using transitions from move to move.

I ment the hardest spin.