LOOKING FOR MY FIRST WAR BIRD
12-04-2003 | 12:29 PM
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LOOKING FOR MY FIRST WAR BIRD
FLEW THE AVISTAR........GETTING OFF THE GROUND WITH MY ULTRA STICK 40 WITH FLAPS.....WANT TO MOVE TO A 60 SIZE WAR BIRD.......ANY INPUT AS TO WHICH IS THE BEST WAY TO GO. LOOKING FOR SOMETHING SCALE AND FORGIVING. THANKS TO ALL. USE THE 9 CAP PCM AND HAVE A BRAND NEW OS 91 SURPASS.
12-04-2003 | 12:33 PM
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Very easy, paint your ultra stick camouflage style, add wing guns, put a canopy with a military pilot and stick big airforce markings on the wings. [sm=spinnyeyes.gif]
12-04-2003 | 12:40 PM
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Very easy, paint your ultra stick camouflage style, add wing guns, put a canopy with a military pilot and stick big airforce markings on the wings. [sm=spinnyeyes.gif]
Very easy, paint your ultra stick camouflage style, add wing guns, put a canopy with a military pilot and stick big airforce markings on the wings. [sm=spinnyeyes.gif]
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12-04-2003 | 12:54 PM
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RE: LOOKING FOR MY FIRST WAR BIRD
GP Makes a .40 size P-51 that is sport or sorta scale not a true scale but this may be a good thing since its flight characterics are similiar to sport type planes chek it out it... It might be a good choice. If I remember the wing is the same airfoil as the GP ultra sport
12-04-2003 | 12:57 PM
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Better yet get a huge brick, paint it green and brown put some cheesy stickers on it, add some wings that only work when right side up, put some very small control surfaces on there and power it with a O.S. .40LA. It should fly just like a warbird. 
Needless to say, Im not a big fan of warbirds.
HOWEVER, if you just got to have one go with the Mustang b/c from what I hear its the easier one to sluggishly pull through the air.
Needless to say, Im not a big fan of warbirds.HOWEVER, if you just got to have one go with the Mustang b/c from what I hear its the easier one to sluggishly pull through the air.
12-04-2003 | 02:43 PM
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I have seen this question asked alot in the warbirds section and on rcwarbirds.com. They suggest two planes the P-47 or the p-39. The p-39 has tricycle landing gear and good flight characteristcs. They recommend the P-47 because of the airfoil and the wides stance of the landing gear. Just make sure you do install the flaps. Proabably the Top Flite kit in either model would be good kit to start with.
12-04-2003 | 03:58 PM
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RE: LOOKING FOR MY FIRST WAR BIRD
Everyone rushs to build a warbird from their trainer.
Keep in mind they don't fly worth a darn...can't do much of anything well besides loops (they don't even roll good) and only look good if you never fly them. After you fly them, its going to get nicks, cuts and bruises.
I would get a biplane, WWI, WWII...then at least your will have flown a warbird and a biplane....thats what I did....now its out of my system, and I only bring the plane out occassionaly.....but normally fly the more "fun" stik plane like you have. The plane you have now is much more "fun" than any warbird out there. That plane will probably do anything and fly circles around the warbird...
Keep in mind they don't fly worth a darn...can't do much of anything well besides loops (they don't even roll good) and only look good if you never fly them. After you fly them, its going to get nicks, cuts and bruises.
I would get a biplane, WWI, WWII...then at least your will have flown a warbird and a biplane....thats what I did....now its out of my system, and I only bring the plane out occassionaly.....but normally fly the more "fun" stik plane like you have. The plane you have now is much more "fun" than any warbird out there. That plane will probably do anything and fly circles around the warbird...
12-04-2003 | 06:13 PM
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Got news for you,a hopped up war bird can do just about anything,just depends how you set it up,and sluggish through the air,you better think again.But you just dont play with these birds you have to FLY them.
12-04-2003 | 06:34 PM
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Yes, if you put enough power on something anything will fly. Pizza boxes, lawn-mowers... Of course, a warbird is not that bad...[sm=lol.gif]
I'm expecting more warbird flames.....shortly.
I'm expecting more warbird flames.....shortly.
12-04-2003 | 07:39 PM
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Check the Midwest Sucess Series of warbirds,they are stand off scale and they fly very good ,especially the P51. For a second plane a true warbird scale is hard to build and very hard to fly.
12-04-2003 | 08:32 PM
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RE: LOOKING FOR MY FIRST WAR BIRD
Hey
Hangar 9 make a good one... I bought it but didn't fly it!? [
] It is a P51D Mustang... A lot of people says that it fly nice, model aiplane news had make a review on it!
Thanks
Flybaby04
Hangar 9 make a good one... I bought it but didn't fly it!? [
] It is a P51D Mustang... A lot of people says that it fly nice, model aiplane news had make a review on it!Thanks
Flybaby04
12-04-2003 | 09:20 PM
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RE: LOOKING FOR MY FIRST WAR BIRD
i saw a guy with a H9 p51 i think it was the 1.50 size but idno might have been the 60. anyway, he was doing high speed fly-bys, slow rolls, vertical rolls, stall turns, loops, a bunch of touch-and-go's, all over a 60ft diameter circle runway, (so you can tell it lands pretty well too). he recreated WWII (sorry no guns) with an electric ducted fan Huckbein. it was all good. i would recommend this plane and use the biggest engine it will take. also get high quality servos-at least the $30 BB ones, not the $12 standard ones. youll have a good time(if you have enough $$$) the 60 size is around$250 and the 1.50 is like $400-500.
12-04-2003 | 10:29 PM
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RE: LOOKING FOR MY FIRST WAR BIRD
thanks for nothing CRAPPIO777
ORIGINAL: cappio777
Very easy, paint your ultra stick camouflage style, add wing guns, put a canopy with a military pilot and stick big airforce markings on the wings. [sm=spinnyeyes.gif]
Very easy, paint your ultra stick camouflage style, add wing guns, put a canopy with a military pilot and stick big airforce markings on the wings. [sm=spinnyeyes.gif]
12-04-2003 | 10:36 PM
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RE: LOOKING FOR MY FIRST WAR BIRD
Hello Rubbernutz:
Try the Skyshark line of kits. They are supposed to be very good fliers. Great kits and phenominal customer support. I personally do not have any YET! But when I go back to work this spring I will have several. There are lots of treads here in the kit building and scale sections. They will work great on a standard 60. No need for super power in thier kits. Oh they are lazer cut and have nothing but the best wood, and glass cowls and parts. I hope this helps, By the way No P-51's. Hope this helps.
Mark Shuman
Try the Skyshark line of kits. They are supposed to be very good fliers. Great kits and phenominal customer support. I personally do not have any YET! But when I go back to work this spring I will have several. There are lots of treads here in the kit building and scale sections. They will work great on a standard 60. No need for super power in thier kits. Oh they are lazer cut and have nothing but the best wood, and glass cowls and parts. I hope this helps, By the way No P-51's. Hope this helps.
Mark Shuman
12-04-2003 | 11:16 PM
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RE: LOOKING FOR MY FIRST WAR BIRD
ORIGINAL: Flying Rubbernutz
thanks for nothing CRAPPIO777
thanks for nothing CRAPPIO777
Firstly, realise a few things: jest is jest, so lets not call people names (except me, because I am allowed to call people names ... because you called people names ... ;-)
Secondly, WRITING IN ALL CAPITAL LETTERS IS CONSIDERED TO BE SHOUTING, and is RUDE (So is correcting my spelling, and no, I have never been able to spell considdered. Sometimes I use one, and other times I use two d's - go figure)
Thridly, I found Cappio777's response to be really funny, so it might not have done much fo you, but I would like to give a big thanks to Cappio777 for giving me a light moment today.... Thank's Cappio777!
Fourthly... Apart from "real" full-scale planes, there is no such thing as a "Scale" plane of any sort. It might be proportional in length/width, but it is VERY different in weight, volume, power. If you want a "Scale" 60 size plane you should at least install a 40 size engine ... and somehow change the atomic structure while you are at it.
Fifthly. As far as I know, then more scale a plane is, the less forgiving it is, so that your desire for something SCALE AND FORGIVING is oxy-moronic.
Finally, there is actually a LOT of merit in Cappio777's original response. Although most people consider warbirds to be purpose built fighter planes, many of them are nothing more than a camouflage painted civilian plane with a gun on it and military markings ..... Bell, Cessna, Boeing, etc. All a part of the trend.
So, instead of getting all stuck up about it, relax, have a laugh, and understand that your ability to enjoy this hobby (and the internet) is inversely proportional to the thickness of your skin.
Also, while I am gently trying to hint to you that you are wound up too tight, let me ask you why it is that you have the cart in front of the horse.... Every "warbird" built was an airframe, which had an engine chosen to power it, and then a control system to mate the three together... in that order. Various tweeks were made along the way, but it is inevitable that you have airframe, then engine, then control system. You, on the other hand, have the control system, and engine, and are now looking for an airframe to fly. How did you get to be so lucky...?
So, get yourself a 6 channel radio (5th channel for gear, and 6th for flaps), and a .60 size four stroke, and a .4 size kit. Will be right up your alley, and then mail the .91 surpass, and 9CAP to me ... ;-) Let me take on the challenge of figuring out what to do with them.
Finally (and I mean it this time), I am really looking forward to the spitfire in my workshop that is going to be my third plane. A nice scale and forgiving .40 size kit from Great Planes. So, if you cut through the humour(and crap) that is RCU, you will find that there is something out there that will fit the bill.
Thanks in advance
gus
12-05-2003 | 12:12 AM
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I want to see a video of a warbird doing waterfalls, hovers, and other high alpha stuff. Until they can catch up performance wise I think I will stick to aerobatic airplanes. There is a lot of "flying" here as well if you do it right.
12-05-2003 | 12:28 AM
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Gus, I bow to you and appologize to all who I have offended,. Cappio777 I am truly sorry about the comment. In retrospect....it was pretty funny. So that said, I wish you all a very happy holiday season and a great New Year. Crashing Blubberguts lmao ...just might change the handle.
. So that said, I wish you all a very happy holiday season and a great New Year. Crashing Blubberguts lmao ...just might change the handle.
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Well, I will rise to the bait.... Crashing BlubberGuts....
Firstly, realise a few things: jest is jest, so lets not call people names (except me, because I am allowed to call people names ... because you called people names ... ;-)
Secondly, WRITING IN ALL CAPITAL LETTERS IS CONSIDERED TO BE SHOUTING, and is RUDE (So is correcting my spelling, and no, I have never been able to spell considdered. Sometimes I use one, and other times I use two d's - go figure)
Thridly, I found Cappio777's response to be really funny, so it might not have done much fo you, but I would like to give a big thanks to Cappio777 for giving me a light moment today.... Thank's Cappio777!
Fourthly... Apart from "real" full-scale planes, there is no such thing as a "Scale" plane of any sort. It might be proportional in length/width, but it is VERY different in weight, volume, power. If you want a "Scale" 60 size plane you should at least install a 40 size engine ... and somehow change the atomic structure while you are at it.
Fifthly. As far as I know, then more scale a plane is, the less forgiving it is, so that your desire for something SCALE AND FORGIVING is oxy-moronic.
Finally, there is actually a LOT of merit in Cappio777's original response. Although most people consider warbirds to be purpose built fighter planes, many of them are nothing more than a camouflage painted civilian plane with a gun on it and military markings ..... Bell, Cessna, Boeing, etc. All a part of the trend.
So, instead of getting all stuck up about it, relax, have a laugh, and understand that your ability to enjoy this hobby (and the internet) is inversely proportional to the thickness of your skin.
Also, while I am gently trying to hint to you that you are wound up too tight, let me ask you why it is that you have the cart in front of the horse.... Every "warbird" built was an airframe, which had an engine chosen to power it, and then a control system to mate the three together... in that order. Various tweeks were made along the way, but it is inevitable that you have airframe, then engine, then control system. You, on the other hand, have the control system, and engine, and are now looking for an airframe to fly. How did you get to be so lucky...?
So, get yourself a 6 channel radio (5th channel for gear, and 6th for flaps), and a .60 size four stroke, and a .4 size kit. Will be right up your alley, and then mail the .91 surpass, and 9CAP to me ... ;-) Let me take on the challenge of figuring out what to do with them.
Finally (and I mean it this time), I am really looking forward to the spitfire in my workshop that is going to be my third plane. A nice scale and forgiving .40 size kit from Great Planes. So, if you cut through the humour(and crap) that is RCU, you will find that there is something out there that will fit the bill.
Thanks in advance
gus
ORIGINAL: Flying Rubbernutz
thanks for nothing CRAPPIO777
thanks for nothing CRAPPIO777
Firstly, realise a few things: jest is jest, so lets not call people names (except me, because I am allowed to call people names ... because you called people names ... ;-)
Secondly, WRITING IN ALL CAPITAL LETTERS IS CONSIDERED TO BE SHOUTING, and is RUDE (So is correcting my spelling, and no, I have never been able to spell considdered. Sometimes I use one, and other times I use two d's - go figure)
Thridly, I found Cappio777's response to be really funny, so it might not have done much fo you, but I would like to give a big thanks to Cappio777 for giving me a light moment today.... Thank's Cappio777!
Fourthly... Apart from "real" full-scale planes, there is no such thing as a "Scale" plane of any sort. It might be proportional in length/width, but it is VERY different in weight, volume, power. If you want a "Scale" 60 size plane you should at least install a 40 size engine ... and somehow change the atomic structure while you are at it.
Fifthly. As far as I know, then more scale a plane is, the less forgiving it is, so that your desire for something SCALE AND FORGIVING is oxy-moronic.
Finally, there is actually a LOT of merit in Cappio777's original response. Although most people consider warbirds to be purpose built fighter planes, many of them are nothing more than a camouflage painted civilian plane with a gun on it and military markings ..... Bell, Cessna, Boeing, etc. All a part of the trend.
So, instead of getting all stuck up about it, relax, have a laugh, and understand that your ability to enjoy this hobby (and the internet) is inversely proportional to the thickness of your skin.
Also, while I am gently trying to hint to you that you are wound up too tight, let me ask you why it is that you have the cart in front of the horse.... Every "warbird" built was an airframe, which had an engine chosen to power it, and then a control system to mate the three together... in that order. Various tweeks were made along the way, but it is inevitable that you have airframe, then engine, then control system. You, on the other hand, have the control system, and engine, and are now looking for an airframe to fly. How did you get to be so lucky...?
So, get yourself a 6 channel radio (5th channel for gear, and 6th for flaps), and a .60 size four stroke, and a .4 size kit. Will be right up your alley, and then mail the .91 surpass, and 9CAP to me ... ;-) Let me take on the challenge of figuring out what to do with them.
Finally (and I mean it this time), I am really looking forward to the spitfire in my workshop that is going to be my third plane. A nice scale and forgiving .40 size kit from Great Planes. So, if you cut through the humour(and crap) that is RCU, you will find that there is something out there that will fit the bill.
Thanks in advance
gus
12-05-2003 | 05:05 AM
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southern touch, I believe ndfrspeed said just about anything... 3d is over rated anyway, I much rather see a beautifully detailed model warbird flying a low strafing run then an overpowered unrealistic 3d type plane tumbling all over in the sky.
This is however MY opinion and i DO respect people who enjoy and can fly 3d... it's just not my cup o' tea
Cheers, Mike
This is however MY opinion and i DO respect people who enjoy and can fly 3d... it's just not my cup o' tea
Cheers, Mike
12-05-2003 | 11:28 AM
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Mike thanks for the input....no reason why we can't enjoy both worlds. there is something sweet about watching a war bird slicing through the air.
ORIGINAL: Mike Buckley
southern touch, I believe ndfrspeed said just about anything... 3d is over rated anyway, I much rather see a beautifully detailed model warbird flying a low strafing run then an overpowered unrealistic 3d type plane tumbling all over in the sky.
This is however MY opinion and i DO respect people who enjoy and can fly 3d... it's just not my cup o' tea
Cheers, Mike
southern touch, I believe ndfrspeed said just about anything... 3d is over rated anyway, I much rather see a beautifully detailed model warbird flying a low strafing run then an overpowered unrealistic 3d type plane tumbling all over in the sky.
This is however MY opinion and i DO respect people who enjoy and can fly 3d... it's just not my cup o' tea
Cheers, Mike
12-05-2003 | 03:51 PM
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Warbirds are their own challenge. Differnet from 3D or whatever, but not exactly easy either. Landing some warbirds is REALLY hard to do smoothly, even for experienced pilots. Landing them in a crosswind can really get your heart pumping. Flying (and espeically landing) with a high wingloading and little margin for error is totally differnet from flying with a super light wingloading and enough power to pull out of anything. (more than once, I've seen experienced acrobatic pilots plant a warbird out of pure pilot error, usually on landing or right after takeoff because they tried to fly it like their sport-acro planes).
Unfortuantly, I haven't flown any warbirds that would go well with that engine, so I don't have a direct recomendation for you. I do see a lot of P-51s in that size flown at my club buy guys with out much more experience than you have. World Models has one that gets good reviews around here.
If you didn't already have the engine, I'd suggest looking at the FW-190 from GiantScalePlanes. With a 1.08 2stroke, it's a really sweet flyer with very few bad habits. Their Corsair is also a nice flyer, though you have to watch the G forces, it's not impossible to fold the wings. (that's actually good advice for any warbird, don't go doing bank-and-yank on them, or full power loops, etc. They usually aren't built for it). I flew a Great Planes Stuka that had a 1.08 in the nose, and it was fun. Had way more power than it knew what to do with (very un-scale), but it was cool.
Unfortuantly, I haven't flown any warbirds that would go well with that engine, so I don't have a direct recomendation for you. I do see a lot of P-51s in that size flown at my club buy guys with out much more experience than you have. World Models has one that gets good reviews around here.
If you didn't already have the engine, I'd suggest looking at the FW-190 from GiantScalePlanes. With a 1.08 2stroke, it's a really sweet flyer with very few bad habits. Their Corsair is also a nice flyer, though you have to watch the G forces, it's not impossible to fold the wings. (that's actually good advice for any warbird, don't go doing bank-and-yank on them, or full power loops, etc. They usually aren't built for it). I flew a Great Planes Stuka that had a 1.08 in the nose, and it was fun. Had way more power than it knew what to do with (very un-scale), but it was cool.
