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Old 12-05-2003, 01:23 AM
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im a newly accomplished pilot.
i currently have a global 40 trainer, a duraplane trainer and a global 60 trainer.
i can fly and land them all pretty well "no more nicked props or bent landing gear"
anyhow im looking into buying a low wing aircraft.
i have my sights on the Graupner super Air. and the better halfs blessing to get it
so do you all think this will be a good plane to move up to to start leaning some basic arobatics and such?
Old 12-05-2003, 01:51 AM
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Not for sure about the Graupner super Air.
But the sig 4 star 40 or the sig 4 star 60
would be a good choice. Both can be bought
as kit and the 4 star 60 can be bought as a ARF.
I built the kits for somebody else but i have
flew them both and they fly very nice.
May one day build one for myself but the sig
somethin extra is quite a bit more areobatic and
its my fun plane for now. The smith mini bi plane
that i have gets a lot of stick time too. LOL
Old 12-05-2003, 06:53 AM
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I'm not familiar with the Graupner Super Air, but I looked it up, and it seems to be a good first low wing plane. IF you get it, Make sure you tell us how it is!
Old 12-05-2003, 09:38 AM
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Now that you have flown glo, why not try electrics?

You can go with slow flyers that you can fly in front of your house, or somethign like a twin jet that screams through the air at 70 MPH on two electric motors.

Zagi wings are fun, super aerobatic and almost indestructable!

Or go fully 3 D with a 14 oz cobra that is made out of EPP foam. If you crash, you bounce!

Maybe an IFO. Essentially a flying wing made out of carbon fibre rod and ripstop nylon. You can fold it flat and put it in your suitcase and take it with you. Fly it in the parking lot of your motel. It can handle some wind, fly in a Gym or even fly in your office.

Just some a thoughts.
Old 12-05-2003, 10:18 AM
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aeajr, if you want a good low wing plane check out black horse models they have a couple of planes that are great low wingers. i bought the speed air 40 and its a very good 2nd plane, they also have one thats looks to be identical to graupners for alot less money there both $109.00+ $10.00 shipping check them out .there easy to assemble come with a pilot figure and full parts package. heres there link=http://www.brucknerhobbies.com/black_horse_models.htm

and if you have any questions about the speed air 40 e-mail me @ [email protected]

good luck with wich ever you choose.

bassman

P.S. forgot to add the planes come in either tail dragger or trike gear setup
Old 12-05-2003, 11:12 AM
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Yep they are the same plane. Black Horse is the manufacturer and they sell to Graupner I believe. I've got the Black Horse Home Run, which flies great, and was my second plane, it shares a lot of fus pieces with the Super Air. A guy at my club has a Super Air and it flies great too. It would certainly make a good second plane.

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Old 12-05-2003, 06:31 PM
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allright guys, thanks for the replies!!
that site is awsome!! i gotta go for the super air for sure!!
i cant believe the savings!! thanks so much! my wife asked me what i wanted santa to bring me this year so.....thats it!!
glad i posted here for sure!! thanks bassman and njl.
do you fellas know of the best place to buy hitec radios?"the prices seem to vary quite a bit on the internet" thats what radio i want to get for the plane.

as far as electric planes, i really dont have any interest in them.
but thanks for your post!!
Old 12-05-2003, 07:20 PM
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I was thinking about getting a tiger II but I took a look at that super air and i have changed my mind. Does anyone know what size fuel tank it comes with?
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csdawggie,
i cant remember for sure, but i think its iether a 8 .oz or 10 .oz i know its the same thats in my black horse speed air .40 and i get about 15 min flights with mine. also my speed air .40 flys inverted, knife edges all the fun stuff with the throws high hope this helps you there very well made planes and fly awesome !!!!!

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Old 12-06-2003, 07:24 PM
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was at our clubs runway today and a fella had a sig 4 star 60 there...very nice plane!!
boy its tough do decide what plane ill be happiest with.
guess whatever i get ill just want another one and another and another!!
any of you have this problem??
Old 12-20-2003, 05:55 PM
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i went with the SUPER AIR. i took it out for its first flight today!
awsome flying little plane for sure! i had no problems handling it at all and it was very easy to land.
looks like i made a good choice, im more than happy with it.
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I just ordered a super air and I can't wait to get it. I know I will need 5 servos for it and some extensions. What else will I need...besides glue? How long are the extensions?
Old 01-04-2004, 12:18 AM
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you will need a Y connector and 2 twelve inch extentions.
this plane was very easy to assemble too. i really like it!
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Good to hear it Mag, any problems assembling it? Missing parts, bad instructios, or anything like that?
Old 01-04-2004, 09:37 AM
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I don't plan on using a y connector. I have a 6 chan radio so I'm gonna mix in some flaperons
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MINNFLYER,

black horse models makes a very good ARF well built and easy to follow directions along with a generous parts bag, including a pilot figure for most models and my speed air .40 handles alot like a trainer BUT can do all the fun stuff easily. i would highly recommend any of these three planes
( speed air .46)( super air .46) and the (travelair.46) for anyone who has mastered there trainers.
i am thinking about getting the travel air in the tail dragger configuration next and as an added plus you cant beat the price on these planes . good luck to all and have fun flying.


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minnflyer, the only thing the instructions was vauge about was how to properly mount the aileron servos. there is servo mounting blocks for this that the instructions do not mention. so if sombody wonders what those little blocks are. thats it..

bassmanh,also blackhorse models prices CAN be beat! i simply sent the Hobby Lobby the link showing the price at Blackhorse Models, they have a low price guantee. they will beat any price by 10 percent!!
they honored this too. i got my Super Air for $107 dollars from them. the shipping was cheaper also.


csdawggie, if you arent going to use a y connector get 24 inch extensions then!
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I have to complain about the instructions included with the super air. I was glad I had some experience putting planes together because the instructions were extremely vague. My super air had the servos mountes sideways inside the wing with a cover not on the wing like the instructions showed. Also the instructions didn't tell you which screws went with which parts. Other than that it's a good quality plane. It's put together now awaiting a good day to fly.

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