I go tmy good frined into flying last year. He purchased a 2meter electric sail plane and soloed on his 5th flight, amazing!!!! Then over the winter he recently finished upa phoenix Giles 202. i get a call from him today that he flew it (by himself0. But what gets me is how did he fly it by himself if his first plane had no alerons. is this possible????? or is he b/s me????

Hmm, dude, im 14 and soloed my first flight, 6 days after getting plane, in a 1 mile square lot surrounded by trees. Not only that, 4 days after that, my second flight I flew in a very windy climate. The plane hasnt got a scratch. My point is, he most likely did fly it!

Bro im not under estimating ure capabilities cuz im 18 and i started flying at 8. But dunno how my friend went from flying a glider wiht no alerons to flying a sport aerobatic plane????? Does anybody else have an answer???

luck and an i dont care what happens to my plane. attitude

ITS NOT THAT HARD!!!, sorry i dont understand, its plain "using your brain" technique. Its actually easier with the ailerons...

Or he's a tall tale teller... Lots of them around..

The answer to your question is simple. Go watch him next time.

Lots of time on the flight sim is one way....

The modern flight sims are almost good enough that if you are conservative about how you fly the real model... you can almost move directly from the sim to any model, never having flown any physical model before.

Pick a windless day... and ensure you have adequate airspeed at all times ... and the model will behave just like the sim. The experience with the glider got him the control reversal training in "real world" (because the reversal effect does seem a bit different in real life than on the sim)

So... yes I can see it happening. I can't see a large percentage of people getting away with it if they tried, simply because of the "pucker factor" involved with risking $300 to $2000 worth of model when you KNOW you haven't the real life experience. (there is essentially no "pucker factor" when just risking needing to hit the reset button...)

If he has a simulator then it is not that hard.

I once had a student who solo'd his first day on the sticks. After that, he was on his own for good (And that was BEFORE Sims). To some people, it just comes naturally.

Note: GTac, before you do any more boasting about your abilities, tell everyone how you almost crashed (several times) on both of your flights. You are not skilled, you are lucky. And luck only lasts for so long. Get to a club and get proper instruction before you destroy your plane, or hurt someone.

What's the big deal? The ailerons are on the right stick on the Giles. On the glider the rudder is on the right stick. Either way you use the right stick to turn. If the Giles is set up properly it will be a very honest plane. It will jut be a lot faster than the glider. In many ways sport models are easier than trainers because they do what you want them to and are very neutral. You just need to know what you want to do and have some eye-hand coordination. Chances are your friend pulled it off, but the question is how long until he crashes the Giles. His skills are probably far behind the plane and the first time he tries to bring it in to land at glider speed it will be dust.

Rudder/elevator/throttle only .15 size stick. Friend takes off, hands me the controller, walks away, comes back 5 minutes later and lands for me. Repete 3 or 4 times and I was on my own with take off and landings. No crashing involved. A couple days later I was flying the same friend's .25 size aileron sport plane. Still no crashing. It's not that hard with the right mind set. I personally was obsessed with flight way before taking the contols and knew quite a bit already so I'm sure that was a big factor.

well i guess it was possible then. An he has no sim